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  • Oliver Peters

    July 1, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Bill,

    You are arguing quality, entertainment and content. All very valid points and I agree. I’m merely pointing out you seem to be trying to extrapolate that to X versus 7 and there simply is no connection. At least not that I can see, nor most of the other folks who have replied here. That’s all. And yes, it was entertaining – at least to me.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Herb Sevush

    July 1, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    [Bill Davis] “I don’t enjoy the old song “Louie Louie” because it was great musical art. “

    But it is great music – the art part I leave to others. If I had to pick one song to describe rock and roll to an alien it might well be Louie Louie – let’s not demean it.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Bill Davis

    July 1, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    See kids…

    Its quite possible to argue differing points of view – even forcefully – and at the end find common ground and come away enlightened by the experience.

    “every night at ten, I’d (garbled) (still garbled but maybe “her”???) again…”

    Some things are, in fact, timeless.

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  • Bill Davis

    July 1, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    But that’s not what Rafael says…

    Imagine that to play an electric guitar or a synthesizer you have to forget all what you knew about acoustic guitar or piano: That’s FCPX.

    According to him, X is so radically different that you have to jettison all your prior training in order to use it.

    Which is it?

    Can it be both “not very different at all” (your contention) yet require one to “forget all what you knew about” before (his contention)

    People come here to be enlightened about where X fits in.

    How can these offered views be anything but totally confusing?

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 1, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    One of the best covers I have seen of Toto’s Africa was during a live karakoe session at a bar in Chicago.

    It was absolutely fantastic. It was the tightest live karaoke band I have ever witnessed, and the audience volunteer had the voice of an angel. I also had some merlot beers, so perhaps it was just entertaining for the moment, and to the people around me sharing the moment.

    I do not mind Real Toto and Toto Proxies as entertainment. I am just looking for “Progress!” to be an FCPX update, or a Pr update that includes an offline/online transcoding workflow.

    I guess we all need different things.

    Bill, I kind of enjoy your posts most of the time, I just want to still believe that you know that live music in a Utahn pizza joint in the year 2010 might not rewrite history.

  • Herb Sevush

    July 1, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-8_GI4d2c

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Bill Davis

    July 1, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “In 1993, you could have put this on CompuServe or AOL?”

    Well, having been on Compuserve in that era (any other CB Simulator users out there?)

    I doubt anyone would have enjoyed the experience very as a 160×120 10fps mpeg1 file!

    FCP was NAB 1999. So seven years earlier would have been what? Macromedia Director? Early Amiga? Maybe something like Videoworks? Can’t remember that far back with much clarity.

    I was probably doing commercials at the local TV station on BetaSP and renting an EVO-9700 to start to learn camcorder editing at home.

    But the guys in the labs of the time would certainly have passed a music clip or two around via Usenet.

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  • Jacob Brown

    July 1, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    not to toot my own horn, but i think some of the vids i’ve done for Vogue with a similar setup and a higher aesthetic/talent level better illustrate Bill’s point…which is a good one besides his odd example….

    these are done on two 5D cameras, edited and color corrected in FCPX. audio recorded externally, mixed, and then dropped into FCPX

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toQXPFzFU38&feature=share&list=PL3iNnDTc8WH2K9zih5WIl0HbW7OMbhGKd

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  • Bill Davis

    July 1, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Hey stop it.

    Someone’s gonna pop up and get pissy because she’s only playing a few separate notes.

    Which will cause me to invoke BB King and yell about how the number of notes you play is meaningless.

    Which will lead to a terrible diatribe from the “note-ists” (who will promptly invoke the spirit of Alvin Lee)

    And then all hell will break loose.

    And we should avoid that and get back to work.

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  • Bill Davis

    July 1, 2013 at 6:55 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Bill, I kind of enjoy your posts most of the time, I just want to still believe that you know that live music in a Utahn pizza joint in the year 2010 might not rewrite history”

    Look, if you don’t find anything worth noting about what I posted that’s fine. (for everyone)

    I didn’t post it because it was life altering or transformative.

    I posted it because the expeirence of it crossing my radar was enjoyable and I wanted to share that with people who might appreicate it. I liked that I sit at a desk where I can stumble across stuff like this that while not momentous, is worth sharing.

    We’re having a pretty terrible day today here in AZ. After monitoring the fire news last night I came across this stupid little video that made me smile and thought it would be cool to share it.

    It really doesn’t have to represent any more than that.

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