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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Professional way of adding 3:2 pulldown to 24p

  • Homer Lee

    March 16, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    hi Daniel & Jeremy,

    thank you for the monitor checking advice. this project’s been put on hold for now, but i’ll check it as soon as i get a chance(very curious) – although not on an actual broadcast monitor, but a regular CRT.

    on a side note regarding this process, After Effects or Compressor, is this strictly a user preference or is there a benefit over one? also, if using Compressor settings, i’ve noticed not to choose the better quality options, are they literally a waste of time & the differences are not even noticeable?

    thanx again guys.

  • Kevin Hotz

    April 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I haven’t seen anything software wise that can do what HDSR 5500-5800 Decks can do for pulldown. Anything with fast movement is going to be choppy/not smooth. Ive tested the Latest versions of Episode and Rhozet, both do not give the professional look of a deck 3:2. I havent tested this out in AE, which I am going to just to see what it looks like. I will follow the posts above, curious to see what its going to look like, and if it could be broadcasted.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 4, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Compressor does it and is broadcastable. It has to be setup correctly otherwise you get interpolation.

    Also, Episode does it too (has a telecine setting) and I use it all the time for certain broadcast requirements. I don’t have the latest version, though. I use v5. Latest is v6, I believe.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 4, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Here’s more specific settings from a few days ago. Of course, you would ignore the geometry settings.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/1126948

  • Kevin Hotz

    April 5, 2011 at 12:45 am

    I have tested out this compressor setting for the 3:2.. Its OK, not really comparable to the hardware pulldown though. It is better then FCP just doubling frames.

    I also tested out the AE settings and that was quite surprising. Video looked broadcast-able, The only problem with the AE method is that for most systems I need to finish in MPG 2.

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Then again with this HDSR shortage, and clients not accepting working on used or evaluated stock, its going be an interesting time for deliverables.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    April 5, 2011 at 1:36 am

    In my humble opinion, 3:2 pulldown is not magic. It works or it fails. It’s a recipe. I’d even set up a blind taste test to determine which is Compressor or AE.

    My latest and most convenient method is to use a Kona and a KiPro. Kona adds 3:2, Kipro records frame accurate prores. I then take the kipro file and make whatever deliverable I need, as the file is 29.97i at that point.

    Easy. But I understand everyone might not have a Kona and kipro available.

  • Bruno Miguel

    March 14, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    Hi Dave.
    Is there some correct way to do this 3:2 pulldown to
    Transform 23.976p in 29.97i in premiere pro cc 2017 ?
    Thank you so much

  • Shane Ross

    March 15, 2017 at 12:02 am

    I believe that Premiere just adds it when you put the clip into the timeline. Have you tried?

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Bruno Miguel

    March 15, 2017 at 12:06 am

    Shane, if i crate a 29.97i sequence and just drop my 23.976 footage, plremierr will convert duplicating frames. We’re looking to pulldown 3:2 conversion.

  • Shane Ross

    March 15, 2017 at 12:13 am

    Computer displays cannot properly show interlacing. And the point of 23.98 in 29.97interlaced is that the extra frames are distributed in the fields. So unless you have an IO Device like AJA or Blackmagic, and an external HDTV or broadcast monitor capable of interlaced playback, you won’t see what it really does.

    Do you have that? I’m just assuming here…

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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