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Premiere Pro makes me happy… then sad
Steve Connor replied 14 years, 3 months ago 16 Members · 45 Replies
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Dennis Radeke
January 26, 2012 at 4:13 pm[Lance Bachelder] “Correction as far 64 bit. Sony Vegas Pro has had side by side 32 AND 64 bit versions since Vegas 9, long before CS5 was released. I cut my last indie feature in Vegas Pro 10 64bit because the constant crashes we were having in CS5. 5.5 seems much better and I would think 6 will be even better.”
Thanks for the info. Yes, Sony Vegas is a 64-bit app and I didn’t realize it was back in version 9 as opposed to 10. Looking at Wikipedia, Sony release 9 on 5/11/2010. Premiere Pro CS5 (64-bit both platforms) was released 4/30/201. I won by a couple of weeks. 😉
In my best Homer voice, “Hmmmm…. CS6….” 😉
Best,
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Chris Harlan
January 26, 2012 at 5:00 pmWell, and I thought you weren’t coming back here. These are stupid, childish games, Lance.
FWIW, I’m primarily an independent promo preditor. I write, produce, edit between 75 and 150 promos a year, myself, and, beyond that, supervise/produce teams of other editors for both domestic and international units of some very large and venerable companies. When I’m not doing that, I’m happy and grateful to take a seat for a day or a week at any of the fabulous boutique promo houses here in LA. It can be a strenuous job–with many long hours and many tight deadlines–but I like what I do, and I’ve been doing it for a long time. I consider myself quite fortunate to be doing it.
And here’s the thing: I don’t really care–when corresponding with people on this board–how fortunate they have or have not been with their careers thus far, as long as they have some sort of cogent perspective to bring to the discussion. The only time such things are vaguely germane, is when someone is wildly prognosticating without any actual field experience. As to “leaders” you are preoccupied with–I think the heads simply reflect people who post a lot. I’ve never signed on as any kind of forum leader, and, as far as I know, there are none.
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Chris Harlan
January 26, 2012 at 5:19 pm[Lance Bachelder] “I’ve never ever judged anyone here including you as a “bad” person – that’s just silly.”
You know, Lance the first time I came across you, you were virulently attacking Craig Seeman:
[Lance Bachelder] “PS – Is Craig Seeman the biggest pest in the history of the Cow or what? FCPX will NEVER be widely adapted in the pro world – it’s complete crap.”
I responded to you with this:
“I fear, Lance, that you are speaking out of your hat. Craig, while far more an evangelist for FCP X than I could currently possibly be, has been fair and even-handed in his acknowledgments of FCP X’s weaknesses. We both have strong areas of disagreement about FCP X’s value, yet he has earned my respect, and further, I have learned things of value from him. Sadly, I find myself having to post statements like this more often than I would like.”
Lance, we all have said things in the heat of the moment that we might wish to later disavow. I know I certainly have. I don’t think you have an accurate view of much of the discussion that takes place here, or the degree to which many of the people debating things go to keep things civil, and actually learn.
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Lance Bachelder
January 26, 2012 at 5:36 pmDude you started this with the personal attack on me. I just answered your last post. And yet you getting personal. Whatever…
Lance Bachelder
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Chris Harlan
January 26, 2012 at 5:39 pmDennis, is there any possibility that Adobe will ever adopt a cross platform licensing agreement like Avid has, so that I can–for instance–have CS6 on both my 8 Core and a corresponding HP or Dell laptop?
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Chris Harlan
January 26, 2012 at 5:43 pm[Lance Bachelder] “Dude you started this with the personal attack on me. I just answered your last post. And yet you getting personal. Whatever…”
Not true. You attacked the credibility of EVERYBODY who doesn’t agree with you here. And have done so on several occasions.
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Lance Bachelder
January 26, 2012 at 5:49 pmActually Vegas 9 was released in right after NAB 2009 and CS5 was introduced at NAB 2010
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
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Lance Bachelder
January 26, 2012 at 6:31 pmI called Craig a pest – never a bad person – huge difference. I was among the FCPX haters when it was released and Craig was cheerleading with what I thought was crazy talk from the get go. Now that Apple has released 2 revs of FCPX I have a different opinion of the app and need to apologize to Craig for jumping on him early on. I should have never made it personal, my bad.
Although you and David insist on the personal attacks on me, I still don’t think anyone here is a bad person. It’s easy to get personal via your keyboard, probably not so much in a face to face meeting.
Lance Bachelder
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Chris Harlan
January 26, 2012 at 7:11 pm[Lance Bachelder] ” called Craig a pest – never a bad person – huge difference”
Technically, yes. The phrase “the biggest pest in the history of the Cow” does not contain the words “bad” or “person.” Huge difference? I suppose that depends on how much weight you invest in “bad.”
[Lance Bachelder] “Now that Apple has released 2 revs of FCPX I have a different opinion of the app and need to apologize to Craig for jumping on him early on. I should have never made it personal, my bad.”
Cool.
[Lance Bachelder] “Although you and David insist on the personal attacks on me, I still don’t think anyone here is a bad person.”
Lance, I’m not interested in attacking you personally. As I’ve said in earlier posts to you, I find the things you say in Techniques interesting and useful. I value your take on FCP X, and the fact that someone of your experience finds the program so useful DOES have weight with me. I was simply rebutting the wide aspersions you were casting on this forum.
I think we also have a bit of miscommunication. When I was talking about you “making that accusation about “pro experience,” with nothing to back it up,” I meant that you don’t actually know what others here do or don’t do for a living, not that YOU needed to prove your professional worth. Sorry if I was unclear about that.
Further, I can assure that there is nothing I have written here that I would not say to you in person. Perhaps things would be less contentious that way, as there might be less miscommunication.
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Lance Bachelder
January 26, 2012 at 11:38 pmWell we’ll have to disagree on the “bad” thing. Bad is a serious term to me and speaks of moral and bad/harmful actions – not whether a person is a fanboy. I’ve never even hinted that someone here is bad.
As far as my opinions of others – I regularly look at Leaders and contributors IMDB credits, websites, demo reels, type of work etc. etc. when available, and try to make my comments based on real world experience and whether it’s clear to me that they have ever given the software a true shakedown.
There are those that come to this forum regularly just to start trouble, I just wish it was a true discourse about FCPX, it’s features or lack thereof and what it’s future may hold. I started as a huge FCPX hater and now have joined Craig, Bill, Tony and others in the hopeful camp.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Irvine, California
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