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  • Chris Harlan

    January 27, 2012 at 12:25 am

    [Lance Bachelder] “Well we’ll have to disagree on the “bad” thing. Bad is a serious term to me and speaks of moral and bad/harmful actions – not whether a person is a fanboy. I’ve never even hinted that someone here is bad.

    I can go with that.

    [Lance Bachelder] “As far as my opinions of others – I regularly look at Leaders and contributors IMDB credits, websites, demo reels, type of work etc. etc. when available, and try to make my comments based on real world experience and whether it’s clear to me that they have ever given the software a true shakedown.

    I go out of the way NOT to post or link my reel/website here. For me, this place is about process, and not a place for my client/contact list. In my career, I have generally found discretion rewarding.

    As to people mis-speaking about FCP X capabilities–I get that that can be annoying. I try not to. I was probably as vocal as you, back in June and July. Now I’m far more interested in how this whole scene will shake out, and I’m certainly willing to take anything from FCP X I can use. I’m not alone. I think you’ll find that the majority of people who hang around here feel that way.

    [Lance Bachelder] “There are those that come to this forum regularly just to start trouble, I just wish it was a true discourse about FCPX, it’s features or lack thereof and what it’s future may hold. I started as a huge FCPX hater and now have joined Craig, Bill, Tony and others in the hopeful camp.”

    Yeah, there are trolls everywhere. So, hey, I like following your FCP X adventures. I hope you get a chance to cut a film with X, because I’d be very interested in the blow-by-blow of how it goes. It is possible, as well, that the coming changes will make it possible for me to enjoy some of those things I really like about X, and to learn some more.

  • Dennis Radeke

    January 27, 2012 at 11:37 am

    [Chris Harlan] “Dennis, is there any possibility that Adobe will ever adopt a cross platform licensing agreement like Avid has, so that I can–for instance–have CS6 on both my 8 Core and a corresponding HP or Dell laptop?”

    unlikely Chris. Avid always has a hardware component potentially at play and their software is lacking the completeness that Adobe’s has (Photoshop for example). It makes sense for them to do this. For us, it doesn’t as we’re just software and the value of our suite is very compelling. If we were to allow cross platform licensing the only result we would get is a loss of revenue.

    That said, we do support moving from one platform to another when upgrading. For example if you’re moving from PC to MAC (or the other way around) you can call our support and we’ll move your licenses to the other platform with no hassle.

    I know this may not be what people want to hear, but at the end of the day, Adobe wants to make a buck too, just like you guys. Making a license cross platform would be a bad business decision for us and like it or not, we are a publicly traded company with a responsibility to our shareholders.

    Hope this helps,
    Dennis – Adobe

  • Chris Harlan

    January 27, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    [Dennis Radeke] ” Adobe wants to make a buck too, just like you guys. Making a license cross platform would be a bad business decision for us and like it or not, we are a publicly traded company with a responsibility to our shareholders.”

    Whoa! I was never suggesting that you make less money, or have less control. Adobe allows a single licensee to have their copy of the suite installed on two machines, as a general acknowledgment that a single power user is likely to have both a laptop and a workstation. Avid allows for this as well, by use of a dongle or online commission/decommission. Adobe’s procedure is less cumbersome, though Avid’s allows you to cross back and forth between programs. I easily recognize that reorganizing the mechanism that controls piracy or misuse would be far too complicated a project to embark on simply to fit the needs of the few single users who are interested in straddling platforms, so my question was really posed–I suppose–without much hope. Still, it would be nice.

  • Dennis Radeke

    January 28, 2012 at 11:29 am

    [Chris Harlan] “a general acknowledgment that a single power user is likely to have both a laptop and a workstation.”

    Ah, I see. The Adobe EULA (end-user license agreement) allows for two activations and installs supporting either a back up license or an install on two systems. So, I think we’ve got you covered in this case.

    This has been the case for as long as I’ve been at Adobe and I don’t see it changing. Thanks – and let me know if you have more questions Chris.

    Dennis

  • Steve Connor

    January 28, 2012 at 11:43 am

    [Dennis Radeke] “Ah, I see. The Adobe EULA (end-user license agreement) allows for two activations and installs supporting either a back up license or an install on two systems. So, I think we’ve got you covered in this case.”

    I’ve found the support guys to be very good at adding activations when you have systems failures or you change your computer

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Agitator”
    Adrenalin Television

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