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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    1 million registered users look good for FCP…but Premiere is the most used NLE ever….more users than FCP, Avid, etc, combined! So if you want to go by numbers, I’d think it’s safe to say that Premiere isn’t going anywhere anytime soon either.

    It wasn’t too long ago that many people were guessing that Apple WAS going to sell off ProApps…nobody was sure, but it was a possibility in people’s minds, 1 million registered users and all.

    I guess it all depends on whether ProApps is worth it compared to their iPhone and iPod sales…

    Anyway, this is way off the point and I don’t really want to get into a discussion as to whether Apple will or was going to sell ProApps. The whole point was that you can’t trust that any company is going to continue on with any software. Previous big name players have died, or are dying, and low end players have risen up. Who knows where any software package is going to end up. And Premiere was killed from Mac before it was even a pro app. It was back before it even became Premiere Pro.

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 23, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    [David Frisk] “It wasn’t too long ago that many people were guessing that Apple WAS going to sell off ProApps…nobody was sure, but it was a possibility in people’s minds, 1 million registered users and all. “

    If you look back at that “rumor” it was discovered to have been floated by someone who either does or did work at Avid. It was a viral thing with zero evidence to back it up that just ran rampant on the internet.

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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    My point was that people still believed it could happen, irregardless of the 1 million registered users.

    Anyway, like I said before, that was way beyond the point I was getting at anyway.

  • Paul Del vecchio

    September 23, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    “For example, I much prefer the way Avid patches source and record on the timeline much more than Final Cut or Premiere did, but now Premiere basically does it exactly how Avid does it.”

    David Frisk, where did you read/see that? I was wondering how they changed that…

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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/features/

    If you look under the “exceptional editing control” section, it talks about multitrack targeting, source content control, and track sync locks.

    Plus I saw some videos of the new setup. Basically there are now separate source and record side track targeting, and there are sync locks, just like Avid. From the videos I saw, you can have v1 and a1 active on the source side, for example, and v1 AND v2 and a1 active on the record side…so I’m assuming that in an example like that, it would splice in/overwrite on v1 and a1 (if you have it patched v1 to v1 and a1 to a1) and then splice in/overwrite filler on v2 since it’s active but is not being patched with anything. And I’m assuming the sync locks would work the same way they did in Avid.

    Just to make clear, although I saw the setup, I never saw anyone actually use it to make an edit…but I don’t see how it would work any differently quite honestly.

  • Paul Del vecchio

    September 23, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Here’s something odd, David. I’m looking at an article on DV.com that shows the timeline window with the track target, but it looks like it’s for the timeline (record) and I don’t see a target for the source (at least, it’s not setup like Avid). But if you go here

    https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/features/?view=topnew

    and go to where it says, “EDITING EFFICIENCY” and click on the blue plus sign, you’ll notice that there are no targets to the left of the timeline at all. I’m sure it’s there in the final version, as they stated it’s a new feature, but that screenshot on Adobe’s site is confusing me.

    Paul Del Vecchio – Director
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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Haha, that is very strange.

    But you’re right, it is indeed there in the final version. Here’s some video I just came across that show it in there. One of them is even for the sync locks.

    https://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/Category:CS4

    They also show up on the Premiere videos on the Adobe TV website.

  • Paul Del vecchio

    September 24, 2008 at 12:25 am

    You know… what’s weird about Sync Lock is that right now, in CS3, Ripple moves ALL tracks. They changed the way the Ripple Tool works it seems. In CS4, the Ripple Tool only effects the track of the clip you are “ripple editing,” whereas in CS3, it would effect ALL tracks. I guess that’s a good and bad thing…

    I do like the track targeting though.

    Paul Del Vecchio – Director
    http://www.triple-e-productions.net

  • David Frisk

    September 24, 2008 at 2:00 am

    I definitely like it better this way now. I’m used to it working like that in Avid, and I like having the control over which tracks move when I trim.

  • Kc Allen

    September 24, 2008 at 2:09 am

    I don’t mean to be a dip-wad, but I have a question. I’ve been editing video since 2001, and I have never used the V1, V2, etc., nor the A1, A2 and so on. I just bring in the footage I want, layer it the way it works and BAM! I’ve got a video. So, tell me, what is the purpose of that functionality and why should I be paying more attention to it? I’m self-taught, but it hasn’t kept me from making a living and getting some nice clientele. However, I’m always eager to learn a new trick.

    OH – and along those same lines, I’ve tried to do edits using CMD E, or whatever that keyboard combo is, and I can never get the edit to slide to where the playhead is. What am I doing wrong?

    KC Allen
    Allen Film & Video, Ltd.

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