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Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?
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It had menus, but that’s about the extent of my knowledge on what went on. I’m not sure on how many menus and all the details on it. Sorry I don’t have more in depth information. I’ve just seen it done twice, and both had menus.
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My guess? NAB ’09
It’s Time.
Kevin Monahan
http://www.fcpworld.com
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[David Frisk] “have to agree. I know that a lot of “professionals” don’t use Premiere, but I honestly think it’s due more from perception on the product than its actual merits.”
That, and also if all you are an all Mac shop, Premiere hasn’t been a viable option in quite some time, which I think has contributed to that perception. AJA just weeks ago started supporting CS3 on a Mac with their Kona plug-ins and if you read the release notes, there’s still some work to be done as it’s a V1 release and there are detials to be shored up (like timecode and the like).
I don’t know about you guys, but a LOT of the work we do has Adobe generated media in it all the time, whether it is Illustrator text layouts, PSD docs, AE projects etc, it’d be cool to have a suite that integrated maximum editability of all of those products and documents, no matter what application of the Adobe Suite you are in. A cool feature that I read about in AE CS4 is the ability to export to flash with AE layers in tact through some sort of three letter format that sounds like some sort of protocol (akin to XML), now, thinking outside of the release notes here a little bit, this is a feature that I wish could somehow be ported to FCP. Take a prerendered (layer by layer) AE comp with those layers in tact and send it back to FCP with those same layers for easier color correction and editability (kind of like the reverse process automatic duck does now), but perhaps this would only be possible in Premiere. In this case, Premier just becomes another tool in the tool set. It’s externally monitorable format and frame size agnostic approach to media creation is something that is sorely lacking in FCP. Also, the real time capabilities within all of those formats blow FCP out of the water. Also, frame based workflows are supported right now within Premiere and can be monitored in real time with a Kona. There’s definitely some very cool things going on at Adobe.
Jeremy
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Exactly. Like I said, I work at an Avid shop, but every suite here has a copy of the production studio because things like AE, Photoshop, Encore, Illustrator, etc., are indispensible for us. But with this new release of Premiere, it took all the features I wanted to see from FCP and Avid and included them all. For example, I much prefer the way Avid patches source and record on the timeline much more than Final Cut or Premiere did, but now Premiere basically does it exactly how Avid does it. I liked the way FCP had blend modes available for every clip, which required a separate effect for Premiere…but not anymore. I liked how in Avid I could have a floating timecode box that I could set up to show me all the source timecodes of every clip on every layer in my sequence…now Premiere has that as well. I absolutely hate the way Avid deals with effects, and Premiere works just like AE and FCP, with awesome integration with AE that I use all the time anyway. There just seems to be hundreds of little improvements that may not seem like a lot, but add up to a much better experience…removing effects on multiple clips at once, adding multiple transitions at once, improvements to their nesting, improvements to PS layer imports, etc.
Anyway, sorry to spew all that at you guys. Here I am, an Avid guy, gushing about Premiere, on the Final Cut board. What can I say…slow day here at work!
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I always heard the they were on an 18 month cycle. If that’s true then something should drop next month right? Unless they are just going to hold it for NAB (if they participate).
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[David Frisk] “Anyway, sorry to spew all that at you guys.”
I think all these converstaions are good. no reason to be sorry.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I think all these converstaions are good. no reason to be sorry.”
Absolutely. Premiere getting better means Apple has to at least answer the bell with improvements. Adobe has come a VERY long way with Premiere since it debuted and their Mac user base would probably have been quite strong had they not abandoned Mac a few years ago.
That’s probably the main reason I would not consider switching to them because they left the platform once, who’s to say they won’t leave again if they can’t get enough market share? But that doesn’t mean they’re not making a great product.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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But in that same regard, who’s to say Apple won’t kill Final Cut? They killed Shake. Who’s to say Avid won’t go under in the next couple years? Discreet edit died. Media 100 isn’t faring well these days. And so on.
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[David Frisk] “But in that same regard, who’s to say Apple won’t kill Final Cut? They killed Shake.”
1,000,000 registered users is probably one reason you won’t see them kill it anytime in the near future. How many people were using Shake? Even at $400 I don’t know of many people who used it. It was a very niche software for a niche, high end market.
We have it here and have used it for exactly one project in two years and that was just for format conversion. Also remember Apple was supposed to be replacing Shake with another product. No clue what happened there, but Apple has a tough row to hoe getting into high end markets because everyone wants stuff cheap.
Look at the business model they used for Color. They took a $25,000 2K product called Final Touch 2K and rolled it into the $1,300 price of Studio 2. I still don’t understand that to this day, but they know something I don’t know.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
Read my Blog!
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[walter biscardi] “they know something I don’t know. “
Hi
I don’t know it either.
But Cocoa 64-bit code HAS to be the future – and Adobe says Photoshop 64 for Mac is delayed to CS5 for that reason.
I guess that Apple has just the same timescale upgrade release problem.Luckily CS4 PremierePro/Soundbooth/OnLocation is out there now to lead Apple in the right direction 😉
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