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  • Premiere & Encore

    Posted by Hector Melendez on August 24, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    At last I’m using Encore sucessfully.

    Found that if I encode from Premiere as avi files the quality is not as good as if I encode using Adobe Media Encoder.
    But I had found that all of this takes too much time to encode.. 2:30hrs to encode a 80 min prog. within Premiere. Once I get it encoded and ready to menu/chapter on Encore….takes about 2 more hrs to encode again and burn the DVD.
    We are talking about more than 5 hrs to burn a DVD. This is too much time consuming.
    Have to be a better way. I know using a standalone recorder will takes only 80 min (in this case)… to make a DVD direct from Premiere Timeline but I like how wonderful the menu stand.

    Is this a real picture for everyone??
    Adding A Matrox or anything else can accelerate this scenario?

    My PC: HP Media Center> Premiere/Encore 1.5… No Matrox or anything
    AMD Atlon 3400/1gig ram.> 3HD: C:200g/ D:160g/ E:80g Nvidia FX 5200 video card

    Zazismith replied 20 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • R. Hewitt

    August 24, 2005 at 3:48 pm

    When you say 2hrs 30-mins to encode in Premier, do you mean to render all the effects? There’s no need to encode twice. Stage one is to render timeline and stage two, in Encore, is the MPEG2 encoding for the DVD.

    A Matrox RTX100 card will help here. The hardware on the card will render almost all of the Premier effects in realtime and can export to MPEG2 or AVI back to the hard drive in realtime too (just make sure it isn’t going back to the C: drive or the same drive the media is stored on unless you have very fast drives). However, Realtime MPEG2 encoding is never as good as a multi-pass version, which will analyse the video images both before and after the current frame to improve motion accuracy and reduce artifacts. Encore supports multi-pass encoding.

  • Scott

    August 24, 2005 at 7:00 pm

    Encore will only encode an AVI file if it is not in the proper format (mpeg2). I have a 3ghz p4 and my encode time on a high quality 2 pass VBR encode is a 1:1 ratio (one hour takes one hour). I would suggest not encoding from premiere, but rather export the file without any encoding and then do it in encore. I would need to see the presets you are using, something is definitely not right. There is no reason at all it should take that long to encode. (Unless you

  • Zazismith

    August 24, 2005 at 11:58 pm

    How do you export a file without encoding it first. I’d like to manipulate my 68 minute video in Showbiz wizard to create chapters (I don’t think I have encore). how do I do that?

    Zazi

  • Hector Melendez

    August 25, 2005 at 4:27 am

    These are the steps I do:
    From Premiere Timeline:>File>export>Adobe media encoder> hit ok
    New screen show up:
    Format:MPGE2-DVD
    Preset:NTSC DV 4X3High Quality 7MB CBR 1pass
    Comment: High quality. CBR transcoding of DV content> hit ok
    New Screen: (Place or HD where to save the process) File name:xxxxxx
    Save as type:MPGE2-DVD[.m2v]
    Export Sequence: Entire Sequence
    File size: 6gig
    From this point on is where it takes many hrs. pk

    When writting this note notice that 6gig (file size) won’t fix in a DVD… so may be this is why Encore need to encode again to make it fix.
    I choose Adobe media Encoder among movie> avi and so on because I did a test and the quality of the first was better… specially in the titles… avi have many jaggies where Adobe media was soft and better looking.

    I will like to know how you guys make this step by step. Also I select this:NTSC DV 4X3High Quality 7MB CBR 1pass… because the rest are “low quality” Then I ask: why so many low quality and only 2 high quality…

    Thanks in advance

  • Scott

    August 26, 2005 at 3:28 am

    To Export as an AVI file select “Export > Movie” and make sure the preset is “Microsoft DV AVI”. Make sure it is a drive that has enough room to hold the file. 1 hour of DV video will take up about 14 gigs of space. After this I would introduce the chapter markers and Menu’s.

    Keep in mind that if the file size equals 6gb, encore will have to decode the stream and then re-encode the video. This will introduce all sorts of compression artifacts and will double or triple the encoding time.

    Scott

  • Zazismith

    September 13, 2005 at 2:18 pm

    I followed your directions. I now have two files…one with video and a separate file with audio only.

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