Premiere and it’s revolutionary Neanderthal Technology

[Andrei-cristian Murgescu]

HDcam…did you capture uncompressed?

Well.. “uncompressed”. Project settings were. 4:2:2 8bit 25psf

About the drives. When I had the first project things seemed pretty normal. However, since about three weeks or so I have many times when the HDD’s are working like mad, but when loading a clip into the source monitor there is not so much hard drive activity. I double click a clip or double clip a click if you wish :), and it just takes about 5 – 10 second to load it into the monitor.
Another thing. Sometimes, when I try to grab a clip’s head to shorten it or make it longer, Premiere just hangs for about 10 to 30 seconds. This is only seolvde by a restart.
And another one. Trying to fade in/out clips using the opacity controls doesn’t have any result at all. The clip plays out just as it is.

I didn’t try yet to work with shorter clips and smaller HD projects.

[Tim Kolb]

[colourblind] “Another thing. Sometimes, when I try to grab a clip’s head to shorten it or make it longer, Premiere just hangs for about 10 to 30 seconds. This is only seolvde by a restart.
And another one. Trying to fade in/out clips using the opacity controls doesn’t have any result at all. The clip plays out just as it is.”

Now THAT’s interesting…

Are there specific Black Magic project settings for the project?
This is not a behavior that I have any experience with…

Also, I’d be curious about a few more specifics on the hardware config. It does sound like your PPro system is giving the software a bad name…

Yikes.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Andrei-cristian Murgescu]

The preset settings provided by the blackmagic design plugin that comes with the HD card ar as follows.

HD1080
10 bit RGB
Interlaced 50i 59.94i 60i
PsF 23.976 24p 25p 29.97p 30p
10 bit YUB
Interlaced – same framerate options
PsF – same framerate options
HD720
10bit RGB
59.94p
60p
10bitYUV
23.976p
24p
25p
29.97p
30p
50p
59.94p
60p
8 bit yuv – same framerate options
NTSC
PAL

Now that I came to this, I have never looked over the HD720 setting I’m wondering what’s the color space got to do with framerates anyway? IN other words why is 10bit RGB more limited framrate wise than the 10 bit YUV? Curious…

My system. As far as I know it:

2xAMD Opteron 246 @ 1.99ghz

3.39 RAM

2x250gb work drives (used for SD projects, AfterEffects stuff etc.)

1 Raid10 Array 2.8 TB (used only for HD footage)

HD Drive speeds:

Average framerates for HD footage 8bit YUV 4:2:2 is 93fps/read 71fps/write and for 10 bit 4:2:2 60fps/read 53fps/write.

In MPBS: 370/sec – read 280/sec – write. Speed tests were performed now with the disks filled at 75% of their capacity.

This is all I can come up with at this time. I’ll try to come up with more details.

[Andrei-cristian Murgescu]

Just to avoid “giving the software a bad name”, perhaps one admin could rename this thread. Give it a more peaceful name as… Premiere Issues or… Premiere Issues & HD. Premiere & his friends or something. 😀

[Tim Kolb]

[colourblind] “Just to avoid “giving the software a bad name”, perhaps one admin could rename this thread. Give it a more peaceful name as… Premiere Issues or… Premiere Issues & HD. Premiere & his friends or something. :D”

Interesting point…it’s probably not going to be a big deal. There have been threads with worse titles…

I’m still pondering some of your issues. I’ve not seen the behaviors you’re describing myself and I need to ask around a bit…

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Andrei-cristian Murgescu]

“I’m still pondering some of your issues. I’ve not seen the behaviors you’re describing myself and I need to ask around a bit…”

Well many thanks. Anyway. Getting to the bottom of this would be an interesting / useful thing for everyone I guess.

Thanks
CB

[Tim Kolb]

[colourblind] “”I’m still pondering some of your issues. I’ve not seen the behaviors you’re describing myself and I need to ask around a bit…”

Well many thanks. Anyway. Getting to the bottom of this would be an interesting / useful thing for everyone I guess.”

So far I’m not getting much promising info on this…but I haven’t forgotten.

TimK,

Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net

[Andrei-cristian Murgescu]

“So far I’m not getting much promising info on this…but I haven’t forgotten.”

Well… I’ll also try to look around for answers too. And also stress my editing system see if I find out anything that might give us a clue.

Regards,
CB