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Prem vs FCPX – Panels
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[Oliver Peters] “So you are getting crashes on export?”
On export is where it occurs the most, yes. But not all.
This is on a laptop and 2 desktops. It’s not the hardware. I know “configuration” is the most likely culprit to suspect (because Adobe doesn’t write for Macs, but they write for everything) but these are decent machines. Everything else works on them. Premiere does not work that well.
I am using software only as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
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[Brian Seegmiller] “I assume you have a second monitor. What do you put on that?”
Individual bins mostly, scopes when I’m using them, the track mixer if it’s a big mix, …
But the fact is you can put anything there at any time. Premiere is infinitely flexible.
Comparisons are invidious but it’s only fair to point out that it’s more flexible than FCP X, even now that 10.3 has more layout options.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I can then use Shift 1 to select the Project Pane, Shift 2 for the Source Monitor, Shift 3 for the Timeline, Shift 4 for the Canvas, Shift 5 for the Effect Controls, Shift 6 for the Track Mixer, Shift 7 for the Effects browser, Shift 8 for the Media Browser, and Shift 9 for the Clip Mixer. “
Here’s a fun trick at parties: press Shift+2 multiple times to cycle through open clips in the Source Monitor.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Andrew Kimery] “Probably a minority.”
Erm…probably? ????
[Andrew Kimery] “I think most users, regardless of the program, go with the default because it’s what they learned on and they’d rather adapt to that then take the time to experiment with different layout options (even if that would be faster in the long run).”
Absolutely. Comparing completely non-standard layouts strikes me as pretty disingenuous and contrived. To want to claim that near triple the amount of buttons(!) within the default layouts alone is somehow “no more cluttered than FCP X”… wish I knew by which logic that could hold true.
And believe it or not, there’s actually a shortcut for each and every GUI area of X as well. ????
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Absolutely. Comparing completely non-standard layouts strikes me as pretty disingenuous and contrived.”
Why? The plasticity of the Adobe UI is a significant and very useful feature.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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1) Premiere can emulate every layout of which FCP X is capable.
2) FCP X cannot emulate every layout of which Premiere is capable. (That’s a major understatement.)
3) Like FCP 7 and Media Composer, Premiere has had multiple layout options for a long while; FCP X has only just acquired them.
4) FCP X workspaces allow for only a limited number of layout options; Premiere allows for unlimited flexibility.
5) Premiere panels can be stacked so that they all occupy the same space; FCP X cannot do this.
6) Premiere allows for third parties to create custom panels via Extensions; FCP X does not have an equivalent.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Comparing completely non-standard layouts strikes me as pretty disingenuous and contrived”
Oliver has already pointed out that the entirely standard (!) Assembly workspace is very lean and clean indeed.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Simon Ubsdell] “It might not suit you but it might be worth a try?
“It might be, but at the end of the day, no matter how I customize Premiere, FXPX (for me) is the superior creative editorial tool (see Jeff’s post below) It just is (for me). So I can try to make Premiere look like X, but it still is the inferior creative tool when compared to FCPX (and before anyone flames this comment, I mean for me, my workflow and my clients. Not trying to impress this opinion on anyone else). Simply my choice.
I do thank everyone for these tips and layouts as they will help when I have to work on Premiere.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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[Scott Witthaus] “It might be, but at the end of the day, no matter how I customize Premiere, FXPX (for me) is the superior creative editorial tool (see Jeff’s post below) It just is (for me).”
Fair enough.
I can’t argue with that. There are loads of reasons to choose FCP X over other NLEs as it comfortably outclasses them in those areas.
I’m just not convinced that it’s superior to Premiere in terms of layout options. That’s all.
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo productions
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I’m just not convinced that it’s superior to Premiere in terms of layout options. That’s all.”
Totally cool, and you have given me some great ideas and layouts that I will incorporate into my current Premiere project. Thank you.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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