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Jeremy Garchow
March 7, 2017 at 5:02 pm[Oliver Peters] ” I’m struggling to understand what sort of configuration you are running that is causing this. “
Here’s my dead project storage from all the crashes and recovery projects. This is from one project file.

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Scott Witthaus
March 7, 2017 at 5:35 pm[Oliver Peters] “Actually take a look at the “assembly” workspace in PPro. Ideal for limited real estate, like on a laptop. Very FCPX-like.
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Perhaps, but I wonder how many editors are making their Premiere interface feel like X! But a nicer look for sure.
The premiere screen grab that I posted above is from the gig I am working on right now. So, it’s interesting that I fall back into a “traditional” look when going back to a more traditional NLE. Old habits die hard.
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
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Andrew Kimery
March 7, 2017 at 5:38 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Here’s my dead project storage from all the crashes and recovery projects. This is from one project file.”
I don’t think Oliver is questioning that it’s happening, but questioning why it’s happening.
Once in a blue moon I’ll get a crashy project (it might crash 2 or 3 times in a day) but I can typically find the cause (bad render, bad piece of media, transfer it all to a new project., etc.,) and the crashing goes away. I’ve been using PPro a lot since 2013/2014 on a variety of Macs (some owned and maintained by me, some owned and maintained by the various companies I’ve worked for), and generally speaking it’s been stable and reliable in my experience.
Obviously our lack of problems doesn’t help to solve your problem though…
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Jeremy Garchow
March 7, 2017 at 5:49 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Obviously our lack of problems doesn’t help to solve your problem though…”
It seems that rendering the timeline, and then using the previews in the resulting export stops the crashing. If I don’t do it that way, it will crash on export.
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Andrew Kimery
March 7, 2017 at 6:03 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “It seems that rendering the timeline, and then using the previews in the resulting export stops the crashing. If I don’t do it that way, it will crash on export.
“Possibly a codec or file/media type issue? Does it crash whether your export directly from PPro or from Media Encoder?
One of my projects developed an export glitch that would surface if I export via Media Encoder but not if I exported from PPro?
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Andrew Kimery
March 7, 2017 at 6:04 pm[Scott Witthaus] “Perhaps, but I wonder how many editors are making their Premiere interface feel like X! But a nicer look for sure.”
Probably a minority. I think most users, regardless of the program, go with the default because it’s what they learned on and they’d rather adapt to that then take the time to experiment with different layout options (even if that would be faster in the long run).
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Jeremy Garchow
March 7, 2017 at 6:05 pmAs mentioned before, I think it’s Pr having trouble with layered photoshop files. This project is full of them.
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Simon Ubsdell
March 7, 2017 at 6:11 pm[Scott Witthaus] “Perhaps, but I wonder how many editors are making their Premiere interface feel like X! But a nicer look for sure.”
The way I work these days is to have the interface set up like this:
I can then use Shift 1 to select the Project Pane, Shift 2 for the Source Monitor, Shift 3 for the Timeline, Shift 4 for the Canvas, Shift 5 for the Effect Controls, Shift 6 for the Track Mixer, Shift 7 for the Effects browser, Shift 8 for the Media Browser, and Shift 9 for the Clip Mixer.
I don’t see any need to have any more panels open at any one time – they can all live stacked up in the one pane at the top left. This way I have a full width timeline and a nice big canvas.
It might not suit you but it might be worth a try?
Simon Ubsdell
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Brian Seegmiller
March 7, 2017 at 6:35 pmI assume you have a second monitor. What do you put on that?
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Oliver Peters
March 7, 2017 at 6:37 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “It seems that rendering the timeline, and then using the previews in the resulting export stops the crashing. If I don’t do it that way, it will crash on export.”
So you are getting crashes on export? As I recall you had a 2013 Mac Pro. I’ve experienced a lot of render issues with those machine, because the GPUs are crap. Check your hardware settings. Right now, Metal is touch and go, OpenCL may be better, so safest is software only, but slower. I find I have to check – not spot check – every export I make from Premiere on the trash can Macs. I don’t see this with other machines.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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