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  • Playback of 1080i 29.97 lags

    Posted by Shane Ross on April 29, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    AJA Kona 3…MacPro Quad 3.0Ghz… FSI 2460 monitor. FCP 7.0.3… MacOS 10.5.8.

    I can play back 23.98 psf footage all day long…no problem. But if I get ANY 29.97 footage…1080p 29.97, 1080i 29.97…playback lags.

    One project is 1080p 29.97…ProRes 422. If I choose 1080i 29.97 10-bit playback, the lag happens almost instantly on the external monitor. After two seconds, I am way off. The FSI image plays back slow…almost half speed. The AJA CP says the frame buffer is 1080i 29.97. If I switch to 8-bit 1080i 29.97, I remain in sync for longer, but after 5 seconds, it is gone again.

    Another project, 1080i 29.97…interlaced. Same issue…10 bit goes out of sync instantly…8 bit takes longer. BUT, I also get weird cadence on the monitor…think it has something to do with the interlacing.

    I trashed preferences, and uninstalled the drivers and installed the latest 8.1 drivers… and the issue remains. This machine cannot play back 1080i 29..97 footage without lag. There is another edit station here, that has the exact same specs…but it can play the footage fine…no lag.

    Please tell me I am missing one small simple thing.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

    Shane Ross replied 15 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Chad Brewer

    April 30, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Hey Shane,

    After this post, I’ll be stepping aside as I’m sure our friend Jeremy G. will find interest in figuring out what’s going on here. Also, I swear there was a thread either here or in FCP with someone having the EXACT same problem in the past year or so.

    I was having a completely separate issue with one of our KONA 3’s recently and it was advised that I re-seat the card in a different slot. That was not the solution to my problem, but I do seem to recall something about a slot configuration in regard to this problem. I’m not sure if that is a solution, but I know that different vintages of MacPro’s want the KONA 3 in a specific slot. I found our year old MacPro could run the KONA 3 in either slot 2 or 3 with no problems. So, I don’t know if changing slots would be a good idea or possible solution for your problem?

    Chad Brewer
    Senior Broadcast Videotape Operator
    TeleVersions, LLC – Chicago

  • Shane Ross

    April 30, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Good idea! I’ll try reseating the card. If that doesn’t work, switching slots. Currently in Slot 3.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Aja Sales department

    April 30, 2011 at 1:22 am

    https://www.aja.com/support/kona/kona-system-configuration.php

    If this doesn’t help resolve your issue, feel free to contact AJA Technical Support.


    AJA Video Systems
    +1 (530) 274-2048 Intl.
    (800) 251-4224 US
    sales@aja.com

  • Bob Zelin

    April 30, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    shane,
    Click on the Apple symbol, then MORE INFORMATION.
    On the screen, you will see on the second line- MODEL IDENTIFER.

    If it’s a 1,1 machine (and not a 2,1 3,1 4,1 or 5,1) you have an original Mac Pro that used the Expansion Slot Utility. If Slot 3 is a x1 lane, you will have this problem.

    This is how to open up the expansion slot utility, and change the number of lanes for slot 3 (and the other slots) –

    https://www.bobzelin.com/how-to-open-the-apple-expansion-slot-utility

    bob Zelin

  • Shane Ross

    April 30, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Thanks Bob. I should have mentioned it is a 2,1 machine.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Shane Ross

    May 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Issue resolved. I cannot play audio out through the KONA…I have to use BUILT IN AUDIO and the output on the back of the Mac into the mixer. When I bypass the Kona, it works fine, stays in sync. If I switch and use the KONA for playback…sync goes out of whack. And I still have to use 8-bit for Viewing. 10-bit throws it off sync after two seconds.

    Yes, it is a band aid. But this machine doesn’t do tape outputs, only tape captures. And 29.97 is a rarity here….23.98 is the norm. And it works.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Bob Zelin

    May 2, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    that makes no sense. The Audio out of the MAC is NOT in sync with the Kona. the only thing that is ever in sync is the Kona audio outputs – not the MAC audio output.

    Bob Zelin

  • Shane Ross

    May 3, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Yeah…if I enable audio through the Kona, sync in a 29.97 sequence starts to drift. Don’t select it, and it’s fine.

    This is a 4 year old Kona 3, in a bay at a major network, so getting any sort of permission to call and do tech support and possibly RMA this thing would be a pain. But this workaround works for now. When things get REALLY bad…I might call in. But most of the time we do 23.98, which is rock solid. And all tapeless delivery.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Mark Spano

    May 3, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    This could also be a card firmware/driver issue. If you have the keys, I’d reload the firmware and update the Kona drivers on that system. Couldn’t hurt…

  • Shane Ross

    May 3, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Firmware reloaded and latest drivers installed…I had that much leeway. No change.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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