P2 Media Cards vs FIRESTORE 3 hour Value price test.

[Luis Caffesse]

[Guy Barwood] “Look at the integration level of the JVC HDD unit on the GY-DV5000 and 5100. You get viewfinder status display etc”

Okay, I’ve never used the 5000 or the 5100.
I didn’t realize you were getting the same data that would normally be on the tape.

Yeah, I can see where that would be useful.

Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
Austin, Texas

[Luis Caffesse]

[mishka] “Don’t worry. The whole job will take roughly the same amount of time. An editor has to be familiar with the material to work fast. “

That’s an important point and one that I was disucussing with a fellow editor just the other day. Now that we are moving completely out of the ‘linear’ world, I think it will take a bit more dicipline on the editors part.

Right now it’s easy to familiarize yourself with the footage while logging and capturing. I usually use that time to start making some detailed notes, etc. However, once we can just attach a drive and have random access to all the footage, it will take a bit of an adjustment.

This isn’t a bad thing, obviously if an editor is worth his salt, and serious about his work, he’ll do what’s required to do the best job possible. And that includes familiarizing himself with the material. Of course, I still think that’s possible without spending the same amount of time you would logging and capturing.

As far as the 16mm analogy, I realize you just threw it out as an example…I kind of took it and ran with it. I think we’re both on the same page, and now this thread is getting way off topic.

🙂

Luis Caffesse
Studio 3 Productions, Inc.
Austin, Texas

[Nick B]

There is going to be plenty of people who are going to buy into P2 and who understand the concept, those that dont buy into it will join later.
It is not a case of IF but WHEN you record solid state.

[John Christie]

Michael

When I started editing on Avid many years ago, there was a huge change in workflow for me. I was used to offline editing on computer-controlled VHS editing, it was a cumbersome, error prone system, but it was all we had. When we got our first Avid, we had to learn new ways to do things, not only to accomodate the wonders of non-linear editing, but also to accomodate the limited hard disk space we had. We had a whopping 4 Gigabytes on 2 X 2 GB drives. This meant that as editors, had to be careful in logging and digitizing, which then also made the editing process more streamlined. 10 years ago, I would take the time to log everything myself, and I could be certain that I hadn’t missed anything of importance. On a documentary, I could get away with digitizing maybe half the material that was shot.

Nowadays, we have assistants who digitize everything, because storage is so cheap. Is this a better way? I’m not sure. I have to wade through reams of footage to find what I need, but at least it’s easy to find and catalog.

The P2 technology reminds me of that old Avid system. It’s not for everyone, but for some it’s going to be a perfect technology today. 10 years from now, when we’re all using solid state storage, we’ll look back at the high prices for memory chips and laugh.

My 2 cents worth.

Cheers

John Christie