OT Logic gets its “X”

[Neil Goodman]

[Oliver Peters] “While this is a strong product and great for X, the majority of sound designers/post production mixers (as opposed to musicians and composers) aren’t going to go away from Pro Tools. That might be different in Europe and other parts of the world versus the US. In any case, Pro Tools – and to a lesser degree Nuendo and Fairlight – is still the DAW of choice in the audio-for-video post production world.

– Oliver
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This,

plus if you were actually using it for making music, everyones already moved on to Cubase or Ableton, or back to Pro Tools.

Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – The Esquire Network – NBC/Uni

[Steve Connor]

[Neil Goodman] “everyones already moved on to Cubase or Ableton, or back to Pro Tools.”

Everyone? That’s bad news for Apple then

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Ronny Courtens]

Same here. Very happy to see Logic updated, but this will not have any influence on our established workflow with ProTools for audio sweetening. Logic and ProTools are very different applications. X2Pro does an excellent job getting our projects into PT and we will continue using it.

[Ronny Courtens]

Reading the positive reactions on different specialized audio forums I would say Logic still has a fairly loyal user base. And with this new version Apple certainly seems to reconfirm its commitment to the music pros as well.

Getting Logic back to the same status of years ago will undoubtedly take time, but like we have seen with FCPX opinions can change very quickly in our business. No time for testing now but I will certainly download a copy later this week to see if this could add something to our workflow or not. If anyone starts testing how FCPX projects translate to Logic X (and vice-versa) I will be happy to read your findings.

[Oliver Peters]

[Ronny Courtens] “Getting Logic back to the same status of years ago will undoubtedly take time, but like we have seen with FCPX opinions can change very quickly in our business. “

I think they have a similar challenge with Aperture. It started that market and then Apple let Adobe eat its lunch with Lightroom.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[George Manzanilla]

I like skeumorphism … i don’t think another type of GUI would make much sense. faders and dials are actually a very effective way to change a setting because you can instantly see what your upper and lower limits are.

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george manzanilla
rundfunk media
http://www.rundfunk.com
http://www.georgemanzanilla.com

[Lance Bachelder]

Not sure if you’ve worked with stacked tracks before, they’ve been around a long time in apps like Nuendo, Sony Vegas and Sony Acid. Normally called Container Tracks – I usually create a separate container (stack) for Dialog, FX and Music and route each of them to their own buss. Inside each stack I have multiple tracks for each purpose – sometimes 24 or more for FX.

The purpose is to keep an uncluttered workspace while sound designing etc by collapsing tracks you’re not working at that time. I’m just not sure how Roles would work in this scenario? Sadly all the work to create Roles is going to change when you send the project from FCPX to Logic for finishing. I think once it’s in Logic it will be apparent how wonderful tracks are and how silly Roles are. I’m hoping this is a sign that tracks are coming back to FCP…

Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1680680/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

[Jeremy Garchow]

I don’t. I hope it’s a sign that stacked tracks can be “Zones” of some sort.

Collections of clips grouped by Role. Components could be broken out to zones. Or, a clock of a button, everything is collapsed back to minimal.

I don’t need tracks, I just need track-ish functionality or better visual organization. Role based busses/submixes would be nice, too.

[Charlie Austin]

[Mark Dobson] “Go on, who’s going to try it out with FCPX ?”

Well, I did. It uh… needs some work i think. I mean, everything came over, but this:

Became this: (screenshot sfter 1 deleted about 40 of the upper tracks (from a 6 ch master)

To be fair, it’s taken the x2pro guys and the Xto7 guys a while to deal with Roles and multitrack sources, so I’m sure it’ll get better… 🙂

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Neil Goodman]

[Steve Connor] “[Neil Goodman] “everyones already moved on to Cubase or Ableton, or back to Pro Tools.”

Everyone? That’s bad news for Apple then

Steve Connor”

I am one of the last people in my circle of music producer people using it. 9 was so long in the tooth, people moved to Ableton, and alot of them went back to Cubase as of version 7 andof course Pro Tools isnt ever going out of style.

Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – The Esquire Network – NBC/Uni