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OT Logic gets its “X”
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[Jeremy Garchow] “This is kind of a big deal isn’t it?”
And if they can do this for Logic they can surely manage it for Motion?
Really terrific news anyway.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Simon Ubsdell] “And if they can do this for Logic they can surely manage it for Motion?”
My thoughts exactly!
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[Neil Goodman] “no 32 bit support is a big bummer”
Isn’t this true of the new Pro Tools and Audition, as well?
[Neil Goodman] “Also 10.8.4. means until Media Composer goes up to that i cant use it anyways w/o dual boot.”
I’m running 10.8.4 and MC7 w/Symphony without issue, from what I can tell.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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I’m having the feeling Apple isn’t really marketing it as a post-production sound-editing companion for FCPX, which I feel is a bit of a wasted opportunity since the app could still function as both music and sound-editing tool, I think. And the FCPX and Apple Pro Software Eco-system could use this.
I bought it anyway, since I only got a Logic 8 licence (I dabble with keyboards and pianos once in a while, but haven’t gotten enough into the software side of things to be knowledgeable) , but wondering if anyone knows about specific post-production sweetening that you can do in Logic X, besides what we already have in FCPX?
For example, in FCPX you have automatic background noise removal, but I’m never impressed by the results. In Soundtrack Pro you could make a noise print, and then do the same, and results were MUCH better.I have a Logic 8 and now X License, but I don’t know the program really well. Does anyone know if it does some things like soundtrack Pro did, in regards to post-production sound sweetening?
Also, does anyone already know how projects and roles transfer to Logic X? If it doesn’t do well, I’m thinking it’s still waiting to happen in the next FCPX update, or if it’s not, that would be really dissapointing.
Because X now gives us, in combination with FCPX XML, a decent audio mixer. And control hardware support!Maybe Ripple Training should make a tutorial for Logic X geared towards editors.
Also wondering how big the need for XtoProtools is if you have Logic X.
All in all, glad to see Apple making an update on Logic. It’s been 4 years or so, and however you slice it, it’s a long time to update your pro-software. The interface looks much better, and reminds at FCPX.
Now it does look extra strange that Compressor and Motion still have numbers instead of just Motion X, Compressor X.
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[Oliver Peters] “Isn’t this true of the new Pro Tools and Audition, as well?”
Not true of Audition which can bridge 32 bit plugins for use in its 64 bit architecture. I’d be surprised it Pro Tools can’t do same and I don’t think it’s that difficult for Apple to do it with Logic…Maybe in the next update.
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“Also wondering how big the need for XtoProtools is if you have Logic X.”
If you are going to use Nuendo or ProTools as soundediting xtoProtools is still valid!
/helge
Helge
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While this is a strong product and great for X, the majority of sound designers/post production mixers (as opposed to musicians and composers) aren’t going to go away from Pro Tools. That might be different in Europe and other parts of the world versus the US. In any case, Pro Tools – and to a lesser degree Nuendo and Fairlight – is still the DAW of choice in the audio-for-video post production world.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Helge Tjelta] “xtoProtools is still valid!”
I would not be at all surprised to see X2Pro morph into something that does more than just audio. Kind of an Auto Duck for FCP X. Take a look at Marquis’ other products… Also, If you need something like this (AVID compatible AAF’s etc) go to the X2Pro site and request it!. I did. 🙂
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[Oliver Peters] “While this is a strong product and great for X, the majority of sound designers/post production mixers (as opposed to musicians and composers) aren’t going to go away from Pro Tools. That might be different in Europe and other parts of the world versus the US. In any case, Pro Tools – and to a lesser degree Nuendo and Fairlight – is still the DAW of choice in the audio-for-video post production world.”
While I am very excited about this release and what it means for the FCP X ecosystem and Apple’s program for the future of the pro apps generally, I have to agree with this completely.
In my business (movie trailers based out of London, England), there simply isn’t any question of being able to work in Logic, even if I want to, as interchange between other facilities and our own has to be seamless and instant and that will continue to mean ProTools for any foreseeable future.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Oliver Peters] “[Neil Goodman] “no 32 bit support is a big bummer”
Isn’t this true of the new Pro Tools and Audition, as well?
[Neil Goodman] “Also 10.8.4. means until Media Composer goes up to that i cant use it anyways w/o dual boot.”
I’m running 10.8.4 and MC7 w/Symphony without issue, from what I can tell.
– Oliver”
Audition ive never used, because it isnt a full fledged DAW as fas i know?
I think Pro tools 11 changed its whole plug in architechture to AVX or something like that so thats a whole nother story. No more RTAS at all.
I was kinda hoping for 32 bit plugs to stick around a while. Not a big deal really, just wont be updating alot of my plug ins yet. Actually wont go up to X until i see more features i actually need. So far its all just spit and polish to me.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – The Esquire Network – NBC/Uni
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