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  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 4, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    Hi David

    I’ve now posted my Fusion Connect tutorial now which I hope you find useful:

    https://youtu.be/Z2D58JPIa0o

    I hope I’ve covered all the key points but please let me know if you still have unanswered questions about this.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 4, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    [Richard Herd] “I will definitely watch it!”

    I managed to get this together today:

    https://youtu.be/Z2D58JPIa0o

    I hope it’s useful to you.

    There are a few curious little corners that I am sure BMD will iron out soon enough but I really do enjoy using Fusion Connect. For me it’s a case of: “it just works” – just the right combination of power and simplicity.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Richard Herd

    May 4, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “Even if such a machine could only run Adobe software”

    Yes

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 4, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “I would be interested in hearing your opinions about working in Fusion after the project!”

    One question I keep meaning to ask you, since I know you are a seriously hardcore 3D user, and that’s what you do with your multi-pass renders.

    For my part, I really enjoy putting these together using a linear workflow in Fusion. Using nodal compositing for this seems to me to mean that you can go places very easily that are either very cumbersome or almost not possible at all in After Effects.

    Are you using Ae for this or is that where you use Nuke? Or something else?

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Richard Herd

    May 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    These have all been very helpful!

  • Shawn Miller

    May 4, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “[Shawn Miller] “I would be interested in hearing your opinions about working in Fusion after the project!”

    One question I keep meaning to ask you, since I know you are a seriously hardcore 3D user, and that’s what you do with your multi-pass renders.

    For my part, I really enjoy putting these together using a linear workflow in Fusion. Using nodal compositing for this seems to me to mean that you can go places very easily that are either very cumbersome or almost not possible at all in After Effects.

    Are you using Ae for this or is that where you use Nuke? Or something else?”

    Hey Simon,

    Yes, you’re completely correct. I still work in linear in AE sometimes, but multi-pass compositing can be a bit of a hassle using that tool… it’s just easier to isolate elements in a shot and move up and down the ‘processing chain’ in a node based system. I use AE for straightforward ‘lite’ compositing; text and graphics integration with live action video, simple shots that don’t have a lot of elements, etc. For everything else, Fusion has turned out to be the best tool for the job. I don’t pretend to know it well, but I’m still learning. ☺

    EDIT: I miss Conduit! 🙂

    Shawn

  • Scott Witthaus

    May 5, 2017 at 12:03 am

    [Shawn Miller] “Even if such a machine could only run Adobe software?”

    ew. 😉

    Scott Witthaus
    Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Shawn Miller

    May 5, 2017 at 1:33 am

    [Simon Ubsdell]
    For my part, I really enjoy putting these together using a linear workflow in Fusion. “

    Does this mean that there’s a multipass compositing tutorial coming? ☺

    Shawn

  • Andy Patterson

    May 5, 2017 at 3:34 am

    [Richard Herd] ” So for Adobe to be coerced into Blackmagic’s model, they’d need to sell some hardware stuff. I would like to buy an Adobe OS, actually, running on Adobe hardware.”

    ?

    Adobe does not have to sell hardware nor does Corel. BMD design has competition form Matrox and AJA. All the companies mentioned want their hardware to work with FCPX, Avid, Adobe, Sony, Edius etc. It is not like BMD is going to make computers or Apple is go to make broadcast equipment. BMD may simply offer a better solution than Premiere Pro and FCPX for some editors in another year or two. It is not a big riddle and we need not make it into something it is not.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 5, 2017 at 10:25 am

    [Shawn Miller] “Fusion has turned out to be the best tool for the job.”

    That’s cool! I had thought you were a Nuke user.

    It would be fascinating to hear a bit more detail about your compositing workflow for this – if anybody should do a tutorial on this it should be you not me!

    There are several advantages that stand out for me but the two main ones that I can think of right now are a) the ability to pipe anything anywhere at any time (which means you can be massively more sophisticated with the way you actually composite the multi-pass elements), and b) the ease of applying Effect Masks to filters, which doesn’t just have productivity benefits, it also facilitates a lot more creative possibilities.

    [Shawn Miller] “EDIT: I miss Conduit! :-)”

    Actually I think Conduit is still going and it’s now free. But I totally agree! It was my gateway drug into compositing, and ridiculously powerful and sophisticated when you dug deep into it.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

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