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  • OT: Fusion vs After Effects

    Posted by Simon Ubsdell on May 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    I thought this was an interesting discussion about how Fusion might be a more than viable replacement for Ae for many users:

    https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=58937&sid=125d92d164cbe43d2350cd5ff3337c36

    “I jumped to Fusion a year ago and have never looked back. Originally I used it for VFX, but as of recent I am using it for more motion graphics projects. The advantages of nodes is clear when doing VFX work. It is not so clear when doing motion graphics, but as you become more familiar you will find it is equally as capable.”

    Nothing does everything perfectly and Ae is very deeply entrenched in many minds as well as many workflows, but if you haven’t given Fusion a run for its money, can I urge you do to so?

    More particularly, if you haven’t yet discovered the indisputable superiority of nodes over layers, then there is a very, very interesting world just waiting for you to experience.

    Finally, if you think Ae is a capable compositor, then it’s really high time you discovered how much more nodes can do for you.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

    Thomas Mathai replied 8 years, 11 months ago 10 Members · 37 Replies
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  • Richard Herd

    May 3, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    I downloaded and now I’m staring at the interface asking myself, “Do I really want to start over?”

    Do I?

    Really?

    I’m not sure.

    Oh, yeah, it’s free. So…ok, I have a very low profile project with a hard deadline of May 22. So here we go…..

  • Shawn Miller

    May 3, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    [Richard Herd]
    Oh, yeah, it’s free. So…ok, I have a very low profile project with a hard deadline of May 22. So here we go…..”

    I would be interested in hearing your opinions about working in Fusion after the project!

    Shawn

  • Richard Herd

    May 3, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    ok.

    Let me also say how well written the support documentation is. Nicely done!

  • David Mathis

    May 3, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I am giving Fusion a try. I love working with nodes as they are very flexible. There is still the bottleneck of the Fusion Clip Connection (whatever it is called). Resolve has to do some rendering, then you have to wait for Fusion to open and then you have to render again for everything to update back in Resolve. I don’t think that was ever an issue with a Premiere Pro and After Effects workflow though Dynamic Link has it its own set of issues. I was really hoping the Resolve and Fusion workflow would be improved.

    Resolve does have better playback performance but one still has to render out effects otherwise choppy playback happens. Never had that issue in Final Cut Pro or at least it is very minor. Too bad Apple dropped Shake from the pipeline.

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 3, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    Good for you! I hope it goes well.

    I don’t know what level of proficiency you already have, but if you are starting out, you may find these two tutorials of mine helpful – the first looks at the issues of what constitutes “project frame size” in Fusion (which often trips up beginners), and the second looks at co-ordinates and expressions, and both try to explain things from an Ae user’s point of view:

    https://youtu.be/Apc-N8EISQU

    https://youtu.be/MxeiOtY7iPo

    If you need any help with anything however small, don’t forget to pop over the the COW Blackmagic Fusion forum, where I (and others) are more than happy to answer any questions.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 3, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    [David Mathis] “There is still the bottleneck of the Fusion Clip Connection (whatever it is called).”

    I’m not sure what you mean by “bottleneck”. Fusion Connect works well for me. But if you have any specific questions, please bring them over to the COW Blackmagic Fusion forum and let’s talk about them there.

    I’m hoping to get around to doing an introduction to Fusion Connect tutorial some time soon, as I sense that a lot of potential users are missing out on just how simple, powerful and useful it actually is.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • David Mathis

    May 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Thank you Simon! Will be posting over in the Fusion forum because I will have some questions. The frame size video you posted has been very valuable and helpful.

  • Tim Wilson

    May 3, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Thanks for posting those, Simon! I’ve got one more to add to the mix, in the COW’s tutorial library, where you’ll find quite a few more of Simon’s juicy goodness. ????

    Blackmagic Design Fusion Expressions & Macros

    In this one, I happen to combine two of Simon’s Expressions tutorials, including one of the ones in the post above, with lots more to follow.

  • Andy Patterson

    May 3, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    BMD software will get better as will Adobe’s. The only bad thing about Adobe’s CC is the monthly rental fee of $49.99 a month. I hope competition will make Adobe lower the price to $14.95 a month.

  • Scott Witthaus

    May 4, 2017 at 12:29 am

    [andy patterson] “I hope competition will make Adobe lower the price to $14.95 a month.”

    Why would you think this would happen? Why would Adobe want that revenue loss?

    Scott Witthaus
    Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

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