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OT but part of the debate I think
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[Thomas Frank] “Reading this Blog I can hear the fear in between the lines of someone that is afraid losing project and jobs to a uprising generation that might be more talented with less technical knowledge which is learnable.”
Did you read the comments, too? Mike Jones has some dialog with other readers who suggested this same thing.
I’ll posit that neither talent nor technical ability alone are the driving factors behind success in this business, though.
Walter Soyka
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okay why do you think and why would say something like that?
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That is true but one is talent and the other is learnable.
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[Thomas Frank] “That is true but one is talent and the other is learnable.”
Ok. What elements of good production depend on some innate talent and cannot be learned?
Walter Soyka
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Well if you know how to write a story but you have no talent in telling a story I guess its only half good. No?
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[Thomas Frank] “okay why do you think and why would say something like that?
If not the case why complain about it?
“Sorry, Thomas. I SO don’t understand this question. I’m sure it is a typo. Could you possibly clarify?
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[Thomas Frank] “Well if you know how to write a story but you have no talent in telling a story I guess its only half good. No?”
What is the difference?
Are you saying that storytelling is not a learnable skill?
There’s an awful lot of current thinking that talent has very little to do with success. See Steven Pressfield’s The War of Art, Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers: The Story of Success, and Geoff Colvin’s Talent Is Overrated: What Really Separates World-Class Performers from Everybody Else, for example.
Walter Soyka
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I think you didn’t get what I am saying “talent” the “creativity” the “imagination” is half… it is part of your success, never mind it is your success. Anybody can educate themselves with technical mumbo jumbo…
Einstein quote:
Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution.Funny a coworker said something like this similar on FCPX… can’t use FCPX professionally try using your imagination. hihihihihi
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In all seriousness, I got from him that he was trying to help out those who are trying to get into this business by giving them a glimmer of understanding as to how they might appear to a potential employer. Stand on your soapbox and scream, “You’re afraid of up and comers, ya geezer!” if you like, but you’re missing the point if you take that kind of attitude to your next job. When I was young, and worked around the “geezers” I held them in quite high esteem, as they were where I wanted to one day be. I realize now that some of them probably didn’t deserve such blind adoration, but in the end, I also realize at least in part, that respect got me to a point where I can make a living doing something I love. I also realize now that I had no idea how completely naive I was at the time. Only time and experience can wash away some of that for the VAST majority of fledglings. Frankly, it’s a tiny percentage of the up and comers that are that wise, and if you think you are one of them, I can tell you with a pretty good certainty that you are not. Humility goes a long way in this business of epic egos.
In the end, he was trying to help. Take it as you will.
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[Thomas Frank] “I think you didn’t get what I am saying “talent” the “creativity” the “imagination” is half… it is part of your success, never mind it is your success. Anybody can educate themselves with technical mumbo jumbo…
Einstein quote:
Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution.Funny a coworker said something like this similar on FCPX… can’t use FCPX professionally try using your imagination. hihihihihi
“Hey pal, you keep following your path. It sounds like you are on just the right one for you.
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