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  • one more kick in the groin.

    Posted by Aindreas Gallagher on June 21, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    you can’t turn the magnetic timeline off.

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/15454581

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    that is so funny. the whole timeline sliding around like jello. edits cut to music all going to hell. it’s hilarious.
    Apple – and I’m deadly serious here, apple could not give a tupenny damn the havoc they’re going to cause in broadcast edit setups, post houses, and edit shops across america and europe. They spot money elsewhere, in the social media pro-am and so the app is now built for rinkydink enthusiasts and imovie upgraders (jesus you can’t import FCP7 and you can import iMovie – that is apple punching you in the nose right there and laughing in your face)

    So apple are leaving, they’re leaving because well, apple don’t precisely care about their customers per se, they care about potential customer’s money, that’s all, they care about customers insofar as the customers are the ones with money – and they think they’ve found a whole new rich seam of wallets, and so they’ve made an actuarial calculation, and it hasn’t worked out for us, because apple is throwing all of us, the entire community of professional editors, pretty much right off the cliff. They never look back apple do.

    Is anyone else annoyed here?

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    Justin Benn replied 14 years, 10 months ago 17 Members · 35 Replies
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  • Greg Burke

    June 21, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Avid Here I come….

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    but jesus I hate Avid, I really hate using it. I’ve been FCP only since 3.0

    damn you Apple.

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  • Ron Pestes

    June 21, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    There is always Premier…

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  • Stefan Buhrmester

    June 21, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    I love the new timeline. It’s awesome working with it once you’ve read the manual.

    What I hate are the missing features, most importantly F**KING import of motion files.

  • Jamie Franklin

    June 21, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Read this too…

    Snip: On my initial project, I had 17 clips I brought in. I decided one was not needed for the project. I deleted it from the event. It deleted it OFF the disk as well.

    Bad Apple!

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    a timeline in continuous swap mode that you can’t turn off is a good thing? seriously?

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  • John Pale

    June 21, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    Not that you really wanted to know….but after skimming the user manual, it appears you have to learn a new way to do this type of editing.

    https://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0/#verc147f195

    Apparently you can make edits without ending up in ripple hell… apparently you have to first learn how to use storylines.

    I’d give you more info, but I am doing real editing work in FCP 7 (waiting for a render to finish).

  • Harry Pallenberg

    June 21, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Jamie,

    When you say deleted it off the disk – like gone… empty trash?
    Is there an option (control click or something) where it would be
    removed from the event, but not from the drive?

    Thanks,
    Harry

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  • Chris Kenny

    June 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “that is so funny. the whole timeline sliding around like jello. edits cut to music all going to hell. it’s hilarious.”

    Try the ‘Position’ tool.

    Not to put too fine a point on it but, this is a perfect example of the “FCP X works differently, I don’t know how it works, and I’m going to assume anything I can’t immediately figure out must not be possible at all” phenomenon I was describing in the other thread.

    Basically, Apple has changed behavior the Select tool to enable automatic ripping, which didn’t exist at all in FCP 7. But the ‘Position’ tool still works in an ‘overwrite’ mode, and leaves gaps if you pull a clip off of a track (storyline) entirely. There’s also a ‘replace with gap’ command, to delete a clip from the timeline without ripping anything.


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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 21, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    yeah, its not good tho –

    “If you add or move a clip in the Timeline by dragging, Final Cut Pro moves other clips to make room for it.”

    You can pop a clip up to the secondary short story poem line (that used to be V2) – but what FCPX does then is place an emergency slug in its place on the main story timeline – the new rules of loony gravity can’t be broken – there can be no spaces. This weird pop up and slug fill operation is a leftover allowance for more sophisticated editing operations – how many times have you purposely left a five second hole and then started sliding wee clips into it to see where they could go? casually seeing black in an edit is pretty important I think – its where you can see the next shots.
    Apple haven’t figured anything new out – Randy has lobotomised the application under orders to hoover up the casual media generator.

    FCPs default behaviour and configuration is for a pro-am imovie user to wander in and start pressing buttons. This app is definitively not built for pros. the new way to edit is to edit if you didn’t really know how, and the software will try to keep the show on the road.

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    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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