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  • Chris Kenny

    June 21, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    [Jamie Franklin] “Read this too…

    Snip: On my initial project, I had 17 clips I brought in. I decided one was not needed for the project. I deleted it from the event. It deleted it OFF the disk as well.

    Bad Apple!”

    It’s a little more complicated than that. See my post here.

    Basically, it only does that if you have it copy media into its own library on import. Which you don’t have to do. This behavior makes perfect sense.


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  • Peter Blumenstock

    June 21, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    I am 100 per cent with you. FCP X is an abomination and a slap in the face of the established user base. And unfortunately it is once again proof that Apple is totally unpredictable and cannot be trusted in their commitment to certain markets. FCP X isn’t something that can be fixed with a few updates; its ignorance for the most basic features and workflows is almost funny and grotesque.
    I don’t feel comfortable anymore basing my business and income on a software and company behind it that obviously has no clue and interest in what pays the bills of the people using it. Exporting to Youtube certainly isn’t one of those things. What a joke! Maybe the time has finally come consider stepping away from all this nonsense, secrecy and lack of interest in real world usage and go with Avid, Adobe or maybe even look at Edius.

  • Jamie Franklin

    June 21, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    The source file is removed from the disc and placed in the trash…

    This is an insane feature and shows this product is still in beta…apple is basically asking the pro community to bug bash this product…bad Apple!

  • Stefan Buhrmester

    June 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Well, no.

    But 3 point editing still works. W, E, D hotkeys are quite handy too. And I think one needs to get used to the new Q hotkey to connect clips.

  • David A fenton

    June 21, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    this is the one thing that concerns me. iMovie metaphor has been cool for a lot of things, but music video editing seemed way easier in FCP7. I hope FCP X can handle this task.

    David A Fenton

  • Chris Kenny

    June 21, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “yeah, its not good tho”

    The Position tool appears to do exactly what you want. What’s your complaint here? That FCP X doesn’t overwrite portions of clips by default, possibly destroying information about editing decisions in the process?

    I’m pretty sure that if it used to work non-destructively by default, and they’d modified it to work destructively (e.g. the opposite of what happened), people would be claiming this proved it wasn’t a ‘pro’ app because no ‘pro’ app would overwrite clips without asking.


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  • Stefan Buhrmester

    June 21, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Oh, and to disable the swapping behaviour when dragging clips around the timeline, use P. Its really all in the manual.

  • Chris Kenny

    June 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    [Peter Blumenstock] “FCP X isn’t something that can be fixed with a few updates; its ignorance for the most basic features and workflows is almost funny and grotesque.”

    That’s absurd. What are the significant feature omissions right now? I count:

    – EDL/XML/OMF import/export
    – Video I/O through third-party cards
    – Multicam

    There is nothing about the way the app functions that fundamentally prevents these from being added.

    The rest of this is mostly people freaking out about an interface without having bothered to learn how it works, as far as I can tell.


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  • Jamie Franklin

    June 22, 2011 at 12:04 am

    What would make perfect sense is if it warns you, which it doesn’t, and from the chaps I’ve talked to, it has deleted the source media, and *only* copy…

  • Stefan Buhrmester

    June 22, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Exactly. All hail the new Position tool. And before someone screems “THIS ONLY WORKS ON THE PRIMARY STORYLINE” just select a connected clip, press CMD+G and voila, you can now use all editing tools on the connected storyline you have just created.

    The new Timeline is really awesome. The lack of important features, though, still sucks 🙁

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