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New Mac Pro not faster for FCP than G5
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Curious review for two reasons:
1) They don’t compare a Quad Mac Pro to a Quad G5 – only DuoCore G5s. Seems an odd comparison, albeit useful for anyone upgrading from a DuoCore machine (probably the majority). Seems a bit apples and oranges if I’ve read that right.
2) The Quad Mac Pro performs at exactly the same speed when they disconnect two of the cores. Will we see that doubling in performance we hoped for when FCP/QT/OSX can better use that config? Or get somewhere near it anyway..
Interesting.
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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Peace indeed – the world needs a little more of that.
As you say – misinterpretated text (and a nightmare re-master) has removed my sense of humour. I should know better. Apologies also.
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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Hmm – still trying to make some sense of the different specs they used in that test. The list given in the ‘The Test’ section doesn’t tally with the specs next to the pro apps perfomance chart.
With regards to Apples and oranges, to be fair to the authors, they are comparing dual socket machines – it’s just that some have dual cores, some single. Still would have liked to see the quad G5 in there though.
I did find one reason to go for the MacPro in there however – User upgradable CPUs! yay…
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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Whats up with the civility???? I was hoping this was going to turn into a full blown flame war!!!! lol (sarcasm)
moody glasgow
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The main reason most pro-tools folks are not upgrading to OSX is because they are stealing all of their plug-ins and do not want to have to buy the new OSX versions. I hear this all the time from audio folks, including one person I know who owns a company that does sound design on features and has an academy award. It’s just wrong…
-Matt
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Walter, FCP rendered at the same speed on a Xeon 2.66 as it did on a slower G5. Both took 167 seconds. So, mhz for mhz the G5 was faster in that application. In other words, if a 3ghz with the same cache version of a G5 existed, it would be faster or equal.
Obviously the xeons are kicking some butt on the Adobe code, and for some reason the imovie and filemaker code. My point was the FCP code. The gains on many of the apps are most likely attributeable to the superior cache/bus of the new machines. But as far as processors go, the Xeon isn’t that huge of a performance boost. A better design that runs cooler and utilitzes more cache yes. A better roadmap with more options and more ghz yes.
But the point is that for FCP users that already have a quad 2.5 – going to a quad 3 xeon is a minor jump for FCP, while going to a 2.66 is a sideways move. One that we’ll all have to make, but waiiting for the 3.5ghz or rev b hardware might be a good idea.
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For a pretty balanced view:
https://www.macworld.com/2006/08/reviews/macprorev/index.php?lsrc=mwrss
Except that Macworld only use iMovie renders as a test – never bear any relation to FCP render times.
He makes one good point – that noone has been able to test the 3Ghz quads. That may just change my mind….
Ben
PS – don’t worry, my 2 hour render will end soon, and I’ll stop posting to myself. Gotta get a quad (any quad).
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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seriosuly people…i love rendering…i don’t know why we’d want to do it faster…its like, free money.
i kid, i kid.
i am kinda sad about my 1.8 dual g5 i have….i hope it lasts me another 3 years, but i mostly work in DV, so, i have a feeling it will.
-ben
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Guys,
It will all be down to the graphics card for speed 🙂
Ben, if you are passing give me a call & drop in
Peter
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I think the whole thing basically boils down to that if you own a G5 quad, there isn’t a huge reason to jump to the MacPro until Adobe get’s it’s apps out.
Unless, like myself, you’re still running a Dual G4. And since I’m editing DV and doing web design and a little AE rendering (not much) it’s still hard to bring myself to drop the cash.
But the MacPro is such a cool machine.
I find Macs are useful for so long I skip entire processor lines. I’ve yet to own a G3 or a G5.
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