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New Mac Pro not faster for FCP than G5
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[Ben Holmes] “You mean Mac will drop the support, like it did with classic, in a few years? That’s different surely, as all THAT did was force me to buy a new OS – by which time OS X was actually stable enough to use.”
I’m betting that FCP 6 will be the last Universal (backwards compatible) release of FCP. Even there, the software will most likely run MUCH slower on the PowerPC than Intel based on what we’re seeing happen with the Universal version. Software will be tweaked for Intel from here forward. It will work on PowerPC, but you most likely won’t see performance tweaks and gains for the PowerPC.
It’s your money and you should spend it the way you feel most comfortable. I have recommended to several people locally that they go with the Mac Pro because any updates Apple makes from here on out with Studio will more than likely improve the Intel performance. PowerPC performance is probably as good as it’s going to get right now.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Chi-Ho Lee] “nd NOBODY forces you to buy anything new. I know working Pro Tools mixers who uses OS9 on a G3 tower and they mix tons of broadcast shows here on those officially unsupported rigs.”
That’s funny, I know of an audio artist here in town doing the same thing. She has sound modules that were never updated beyond OS 9 and she keeps her one system chugging along on the G4.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[walter biscardi] ” I have recommended to several people locally that they go with the Mac Pro because any updates Apple makes from here on out with Studio will more than likely improve the Intel performance”
Not disagreeing with any of that – and when we get that increased performance, I’ll change my views on what the best current purchase is. Right now, for me, it’s not the Mac Pro because I gain nothing in performance, and lose qualified support on some of my third party hardware and software. Down the line – and that may be in six months or a year (who knows) then DEFINITELY the balance will shift to the newer machines. But not only can’t I wait that long, I feel a little let down on behalf of anyone who delayed and delayed purchases expecting it all to be in place now. I was led to believe FCP5.1 would ‘really fly’ when we finally got it on Intel Macs. It doesn’t.
I’m genuinely not bothered what compatability is like in 3-4 years. We turn over kit, as it takes a hammering in the field, and Mac hardware is an inexpensive upgrade, relatively speaking, for us. I realise that is NOT the case for many other people.
BTW – If you’re not bothered what I buy, why try to change my mind? Honestly, I’m just expressing an opinion here, there’s no need to attack me because we disagree.
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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[Ben Holmes] “BTW – If you’re not bothered what I buy, why try to change my mind? Honestly, I’m just expressing an opinion here, there’s no need to attack me because we disagree.”
We’re not “attacking” you. You started a discussion on this public forum as to why you think the new Mac Pro is not a good buy. We’re saying why we think it IS a good buy.
Difference of opinion and those reading this thread will make their own decisions.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Sorry Walter – I wasn’t talking to you. I should have made it clearer.
“I don’t give two cents on whether you upgrade or not. LOL” is just basically rude.
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.Producer/Director “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com
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The huge performance gains you are all hoping for won’t happen until next year when both the 64bit Leopard OS and the 64bit version of FCP are available.
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I also must put in a sidenote to the AE test they run and it’s really a “strange” one cause G5’s usually kicked Wintel bye far on that particular one, but on others they sometime got beaten. Never the less it’s impressive (and strange) to see AE how fast in this case on the Mac Pro and FCP so slow.
I’d like to see a more varied test before I take the verdict to court so to speak. FCP might suffer from slow QT performance on the intel side. In QuickTime a Dual Core 2.3 G5 is 2X faster than a 2.0 Ghz Core Duo
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[Bret Williams] “Am I nuts to be unimpressed?”
Check out AnandTech’s review – Mac Pro looks pretty impressive to me. And they get very different results in FCP and Cinebench than Barefeats.
https://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=1
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[Ben Holmes] “Sorry Walter – I wasn’t talking to you. I should have made it clearer.
“I don’t give two cents on whether you upgrade or not. LOL” is just basically rude. “
Well, I found your response to my post equally rude and dismissive – “Not convinced – sorry.”
But hey, it’s text and it’s easy to misinterpret. I wasn’t trying to be rude, hence the LOL.
Anyways, Ben, I apologize if you felt my words were attacking.
In closing, I feel if you have already have a quad g5, then there’s probably no need to replace it with the new Mac Pro (unless you want the internal raid which people are clocking 180mb/sec). But I do feel it’s a good buy if you have an aging machine that needs to be replaced.
Peace on the web,
CHL
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Video Editor
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Yea, kinda wished I was a pro tools mixer. it’s be a lot cheaper! Or hell, just a writer, then all I need is a clamshell ibook.
CHL
Chi-Ho Lee
Film & Video Editor
Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
http://www.chiholee.com
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