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New blog post from Philip Hodgetts. Worth the read.
Herb Sevush replied 14 years, 5 months ago 33 Members · 207 Replies
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Shane Ross
December 19, 2011 at 5:37 pm[Jeremy Garchow] ” What if people hire you because you can do it better, but then pressure you to get it done faster? Do you simply say no?”
Yes. If they want better…if they hired me for better…they need to know that it takes time to make “better.” Want to save money? Hire an assistant editor to bring in the footage and organize it. They are cheaper.
Quality comes with a price. If they want it, they need to give us what we need.
Shane
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Mitch Ives
December 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm[Oliver Peters] “True, but there’s nothing inherently wrong with a company defending its product designs or points-of-view. And “antenna-gate” really isn’t a great example (though it provides great fodder for levity), because Apple got plenty of push-back. They offered a remedy and subsequently altered the design.”
I believe the point being made was that the design was altered in the next version the 4s. Those with the iPhone4 were told that the problem was imaginary and here’s your phone condom to make everything all right. That was a P.R. disaster and worthy spin of some pathetic political party, not Apple.
As I said in another post, we should expect more of this. This is the Tim Cook way… bring everything to market faster. At some point you start out driving your headlights and you begin to have a string of less than stellar releases… like the iPhone 4… FCPX, OSX Lion, and iCloud. Forget any perceived shortcomings, they all had major defects that made it past testing and into the public release. In the past, that wouldn’t have happened with Apple. As Dylan said, “the times they are a changing”.
Too be fair to Apple, this isn’t unique to them. Mercedes went from #1 in quality to a severe drop, until they publicly admitted it, and then increased the product testing cycle back to what it was before they release a product to the public. Maybe Apple will make the same decision at some point?
Mitch Ives
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http://www.insightproductions.com“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Jeremy Garchow
December 19, 2011 at 5:41 pm[Chris Harlan] “Frankly, Jeremy, I generally find your tempered assessment of FCP X’s virtues far more insightful and useful than PH’s. No disrespect to PH; I just think he’s gotten himself caught up in a whirlwind as an evangelist/apologist, and it is perhaps difficult for him to get perspective.”
Ha! I’m just a rather blogless dude who edits outside of Hollywood. Don’t listen to me!!! ;-D Thank you, though.
I do see where Philip is coming from, and he took it directly from real working editors talking about their jobs and the newer pressures within. This idea of having less time to do more is not from Philip, but from “the industry”. I think he’s rather balanced saying that it’s not for everyone, but does seem to explain at least some of the FCPX approach. 2012 will be yet another interesting year.
Jeremy
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David Roth weiss
December 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm[Bill Davis] “The only thing I bring to the party is an almost pathological intolerance for one-sidedness.”
Absolutely hilarious!!!
Are you trying to be funny Bill, or is this just accidental?
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Shane Ross
December 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm[Walter Soyka] “What does 2x – 4x faster than FCP7 mean? Is it saving people 5 to 7.5 hours over a 10-hour day? For those using FCPX full-time now, would you say that you were wasting 50% to 75% of your day before?
I got the impression that the editors PH was responding were lamenting tightening schedules not leaving them enough time to properly familiarize themselves with their footage so they can craft a story.”
NAILED IT!
Shane
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Jeremy Garchow
December 19, 2011 at 6:01 pm[Chris Harlan] “I’d probably be interested in Smoke, if it weren’t unjustifiable overkill for what I do. But, if the right project comes…”
By the way, Smoke would seemingly be awesome for us too, but alas to get 4 seats of it isn’t quite practical at this time, even 2 seats. I have high hopes for the next CS release. We use the rest of the Adobe suite all the time, and I am curious what’s going to happen with the Speedgrade acquisition.
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Bill Davis
December 19, 2011 at 6:18 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Are you trying to be funny Bill, or is this just accidental?”
It’s “accidental” in precisely the same way that in classic debate, the “pro” or the “con” sides each argue from a point of view.
I don’t try to make the other sides points – and I’m fine that they don’t try to make mine.
That’s the difference between debate and propaganda, now isn’t it?
I know it’s a complex concept, David, but in this style of discussion, each party is not required to be “balanced” – but rather to provide the alternative view.
It’s presumed that the audience is sophisticated enough to understand that each party might well understand the positions on both sides – and perhaps even agree with some of each.
But debate utterly fails if both parties merely argue the same position.
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Herb Sevush
December 19, 2011 at 6:18 pm[Andreas Kiel] “”Bill, your post is crazier than Andreas’s”
What was crazy on my last post????????”
Apologies, I mean to say Aindreas.
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David Lawrence
December 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm[Chris Harlan] “Also, I don’t understand why PH doesn’t think I don’t have equally “instant” access to photos and sfx through the OS X file system. I often build sfx bins dragging and dropping from outside FCP. I can easily preview gunshots in finder from gun folders and dropped them into a bin.”
Excellent point. I’ve been using OSX finder tools as part of my organizing strategy for years. One example – when I get a HD full of unfamiliar clips, the first thing I always do is view everything in the finder in coverflow view. I then use quicklook to skim anything of interest. Using this technique, even if there’s hundreds of GBs to go thru, I get a sense of the footage landscape very fast and can quickly set up my bins in a way that makes sense.
Another technique that works well – all sfx are organized in a special iTunes library. Keywords are built into the filenames and searching and playback are fast and easy. When I find the sounds I want, I reveal in finder and copy to my project.
I’m not suggesting these techniques are superior to FCPX’s new organization tools (which are very good), just that there are strategies you can use with legacy for significant leverage when organizing.
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Shane Ross
December 19, 2011 at 7:34 pmI have been using iTunes for YEARS…and I mean pretty much since it came out…to organize my SFX and music. I talk about this in my tutorial DVD for FCP…using iTunes. Find what I need, drag it into the folder I want on my media drive, then into my project. Done. This way, I can archive the media I use in my project, grab the drive and bring it to another station, or hand it off.
Oh, FCX doesn’t like you doing that.
Shane
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