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  • Need to deliver 29.97 interlaced but footage is 1080p24

    Posted by Lisa Olshanski on June 26, 2011 at 2:54 am

    I just found out that the 24p project I am working on has to be delivered as either an MPEG2 or H.264 file at 1080i, Upper Field Dominance, 29.97. The footage was originally shot on Sony XDCam EX 1080p24 and then transferred to Apple Pro Res 422. In Compressor, I made a h.264 file with the 29.97 frame rate but I’m assuming it’s progressive. How can I make it interlaced? Is there something I should do in Final Cut before I compress it? I also have the option of making it 720p. Should I do that instead? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    Matt Campbell replied 14 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Everest Mokaeff

    June 26, 2011 at 11:13 am

    In Compressor you can set field dominance you need: Go to Inspector then to second tab Encoder then Video Format.

    Sony PMW-EX3, Canon Mark II 5D, FCS3 in Moscow
    http://www.mokaeff.com

  • Lisa Olshanski

    June 26, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Thanks. I think I tried what you are saying. I sent my 1080p sequence to Compressor, choosing Quicktime h.264 and changing the frame rate to 29.97 in the video settings and changing output field to top first in frame controls. However, my exported file from that played fast- it played at 29.97 for 24 seconds. And it had the interlacing lines through it. It didn’t look horrible but it didn’t look like it did when it was progressive. Anyway, I’m doing a new test. For set duration to, I selected “so source frames play at 29.97 fps.” Maybe that’s what made it play fast. Now I’m doing a test where I selected 100% of source. So, assuming this works, is it normal for my footage to have the small lines through it now since I selected top field first? I also tried making an MPEG 2 which is also another deliverable option. I can select field dominance in the encoder tab there. I chose MPEG2 Transport and it says that there should be audio with it but there is no audio on my exported file. Do I have to do audio as a separate element?

  • Lisa Olshanski

    June 26, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Okay. Changing the duration to 100% of source seems to have worked. I still see the lines in the footage mostly when there is fast motion but I have to assume that this is because of choosing the upper field first and there is nothing much I can do about it. So, technically, I think my export meets the specs I’m supposed to deliver. However, if anyone has read this tread and knows a better way I’d love to hear it.

    Thanks!

  • Everest Mokaeff

    June 26, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Your computer monitor displays progressively. When you play interlaced footage it’s normal to notice lines.

    Sony PMW-EX3, Canon Mark II 5D, FCS3 in Moscow
    http://www.mokaeff.com

  • Lisa Olshanski

    June 26, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Thank you Everest. Just to confirm- If I choose a field dominance for progressive footage, I am changing it to interlaced footage. Is that correct?

  • Rafael Amador

    June 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    [Lisa Olshanski] “I just found out that the 24p project I am working on has to be delivered as either an MPEG2 or H.264 file at 1080i, Upper Field Dominance, 29.97.”
    Lisa,
    Make sure that stuff is not for BluRay or DVD delivering.
    If so, all the p24 > i29.97 conversion is unnecessary.
    That picture just need a pull down added to be i29.97.
    This operation is done on the fly by DVD and BR players, and do not degrades the picture quality.
    This is done just by repeating certain fields of the original picture.
    Converting p24 > i29,97 you need to re-process the whole original image.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Make sure the frame rate is set to 29.97 in the video tab.

    Field Dom is set to upper. And have retiming and interlace controls set to “fast”.

    This will produce proper 3:2 pulldown. I do it all the time for broadcast.

  • Everest Mokaeff

    June 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I’m not sure I got the question. Progressive stands for no fields. If you choose upper/lower field dominance for progressive footage then you’ll get interlaced material outputted. Interlaced means a frame consists of two fields upper/lower (or odd/even).

    Sony PMW-EX3, Canon Mark II 5D, FCS3 in Moscow
    http://www.mokaeff.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 26, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Lisa has to add 3:2 pulldown to her 24p movie.

    It’s a decades old industry standard of getting 24p material to NTSC. This process makes fields from the existing 24p footage for a 1080i broadcast.

  • Rafael Amador

    June 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Make sure the frame rate is set to 29.97 in the video tab.

    Field Dom is set to upper. And have retiming and interlace controls set to “fast”.

    This will produce proper 3:2 pulldown. I do it all the time for broadcast.”
    Great.
    I was wondering how to add plain pull-down on Compressor.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

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