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Music-Video “Through Glass”….how to do this in AE?
Ok, I already asked a question about a Video by the rock-band Stone Sour, but this time it won’t be that easy I guess.
So please take a look at this video:
https://www.videocodezone.com/videos/s/stone_sour/through_glass.htmlMy question is how I can reproduce this effect with the people getting transformed into cardboards, which you can see in the second part of the video.
Can someone think for a solution? I already thought of producing the cardboardes with blue or green paint on it for keying and then add the pictures/videos of the people digitally…but this is very tme-consuming and since I know that Stone Sour isn’t investing high amounts of money for there videos there should be a more easy and low-cost solution for this….
I really would appreciate it!
Thanks
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Those shots are actually a combination of :
– Locked off cameras with jitter and motion added in post
– Lots of rotoscoping
– Some greenscreenBasically you film the actors who are to be cardboarded on a clean plate (no other actors in the shot) and they do their thing on a greenscreen. You take a snapshot of them from the same angle as the camera is in (hell, if its HD you could prolly even take a snapshot with the cam… the cardboard cutouts don’t need to be high-res)
You then produce the cardboard cutouts and place them on set. Before you shoot the scene with the actors and the carboard cutout, you make sure to record a clean plate.
You then film your scene with the actors picking up the cardboard cutout.
In post, you composite the live cardboard actors over the cardboard cutout and then blend them together whenever you make the transition from live action to cardboard action…
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One way to do it: Key the 2 actors first in front of blue screen, make real card board figures out of the last frame in your scene.
Key actors into the actual scene, matching the last frame to the position of the cardboard figures, and mask out the cardboards until they are to appear. I’m not saying the last part would be easy.
Vince
Vince Beck
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Hmm….quite complicted…I’M not sure if I understood everything?
first what do you mean with “Locked off cameras with jitter and motion added in post”? I don’T know what exactly you mean. Im sorry, not a pro until now….
And does it mean, that I have to print the snapshot on the cardboard? Because this could be very blocky when printed in life-size, even with HD-Cams
I know I have to cut the cardboards but would it be possible to add the snapshot on the cardboard digitally in post? By using 3D-Areas and/or tracking?
Very cool and tricky effect…but very hard for me…
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I agree with Jason and Vincent. As far as print resolution for the real cardboard cut outs, Just get a 2k scan of your film frame from the greenscreen shoot. Most good transfer houses offer that option. The real print will have some pixelization when you look at it in person, but remember that it will be shot not even filling the screen then eventually transferred back down to SD.
I did a Denny’s/Dreamwork’s commercail promoting “Madagascar”. We took their art and did a big cardboard cutout that we shot on camera. The art wasn’t high enough resolution so in person it looked pretty rough. But once shot and transferred back down to SD, it made no difference what-so-ever.
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By Jitter I mean that the camera movement you see in the clip is created in post production.
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SD video is the poorman’s blemish removal
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you do things like this with lots of planning and storyboards. you can’t just pick up a camera and start shooting.
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Not that I know anything about this, but it seems like it would be a lot easier to do this using 3D, so that the carboard cutouts are 3D layers tand tracked in using bojou or something else. this would make it a lot easier to deal with the shots.
Th reason I suspect that they may have done it this way is becasue the motion on the cardboard in some of those walk aways is really jittery.
He may actually be picking something up that has been placed behind the spot the actors are supposed to be standing in (That they are blocking), so when we see him carrying soemthing, he may actually be holding something they used for tracking.
A little color correcting (as has clearly been done) and some camera jitter and it could faked convincingly, I think. And I think this method is probably more reliable and less likely to encounter problems then using actual cardboard cutouts.
Again, only a guess and I’m probably wrong, but it seem slike it could work.
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Well, what tells me that they are probably real cardboard cutouts, is that you see a light reflecting on it a couple of time.
It could have been added in post, but this reflection looks pretty real and is usually something you actually would want to avoid.
My two bits…
Vince
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[Vincent Becquiot] “It could have been added in post, but this reflection looks pretty real and is usually something you actually would want to avoid.”
Not if you want it to look “real.” The very fact that specularity in there is actually an indicator that it’s not really there. Why didn’t they just use a finish that wouldn’t reflect light. saying that it looks to real to be fake becasue of a “mistake” is what makes good compositing. If it were too clean then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Again, this is just a guess… I really do have no idea.
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