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  • Steve Connor

    October 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    [Bill Davis] “The traditional media sure.

    But you and I have probably “consumed” as much single source creative content as we have collaborative – if you accept that every email, tweet, snapchat and vine consumed was created largely by a single brain.

    It’s easier to make the collaborative rule stick if you start out being able to define and restrict “entertainment” in the narrow way you’ve been traditionally conditioned.

    Heck, I just racked up another few seconds of you and a lot of others spending time consuming MY “creative content” right here.”

    Quite some distance from your original point I think

  • Andrew Kimery

    October 20, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Oh that’s just silly, Andrew. “

    What’s silly about something that’s inexpensive, effective and easy to use? Because it doesn’t require electricity or a shiny new gadget?

    Like I said in my previous post, I’ve tried a number of different technologies for reasons like you’ve mentioned but they’ve all failed to displace cards on a wall as a viable option for reasons I, and others, have mentioned. Oh no, choices. The horror.

  • Andrew Kimery

    October 20, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Nope. And neither has 95% of the working editors on the planet. I thought everyone was quite aware of my crusade not to let the conversation here in “or not” focus exclusively on the needs of the top sliver of the industry. “

    Odd how the ‘the conversation is too narrowly focused to be relevant’ card doesn’t seem to get played when we are talking about how can FCP X serve the needs of the top sliver of the industry.

  • Mark Suszko

    October 20, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    The Murches, Coens, Finchers… they serve the same purpose in NLE development that NASCAR and INDYcar racing serve in stimulating developments and tech advances in the auto industry. WHat is invented to get around the track faster or beat a restriction with an innovation, eventually winds up in some form on the family car. So keeping an eye on what they do and what they like and use, is useful in a broad sense to anyone with a stake in the industry.

  • Oliver Peters

    October 20, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    [Tony West] “That wouldn’t have helped Apple though. They had a vested interest in them succeeding. That’s pretty obvious to me.”

    True, but there was no direct support.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    October 20, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Well – discussions that keep to a single rigid “track” have never been a hallmark of THIS forum.

    Huh, now that you bring it up – I wonder why?

    ; )

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  • Bill Davis

    October 20, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    Right David.

    I’m sure if they had just cut Focus on an AVID it would have been a much better movie.

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  • Oliver Peters

    October 20, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    [Bill Davis] “I’m sure if they had just cut Focus on an AVID it would have been a much better movie.

    You’re getting dangerously close to guitar discussions again 😉

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Walter Soyka

    October 20, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    [Mark Suszko] “The Murches, Coens, Finchers… they serve the same purpose in NLE development that NASCAR and INDYcar racing serve in stimulating developments and tech advances in the auto industry. WHat is invented to get around the track faster or beat a restriction with an innovation, eventually winds up in some form on the family car. So keeping an eye on what they do and what they like and use, is useful in a broad sense to anyone with a stake in the industry.”

    That’s the classic, top-down model for innovation. The new, bottom-up model suggests that the Murch/Coen/Fincher NASCAR drivers of the world are benefiting from new family car designs.

    I don’t think innovation only goes one way anymore.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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  • Bill Davis

    October 20, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    I found the argument silly – NOT any of the organizational methods it discussed.

    I’ll tape a script to the wall too when it serves my needs. I just don’t mistake that because it serves my needs in one setting – that’s the only viable way to approach Every edit every time.

    A paper edit of any type is “a” workflow.

    Not “the” workflow.

    And I’ve seen a LOT of common “paper edits” that I did for decades become obsolete as superior replacements emerged. I’m reminded of the snapshot of Tomas Grove Carter tagging the dailies of those Honda ads that won all the big awards in Europe from the back seat of an automobile with his shoes off. Be kinda tough to get a 4 X 8 piece of foamcore storyboard in there!

    Keep the tradition or move on. It’s totally an individual editors choice. And that’s fine by me.

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