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Murch and NLEs from IBC
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[Bill Davis] “No doubt some things benefit from many collaborative minds. So if that’s your space, embrace it!
““Some things” = Almost all of the Visual Entertainment Industry
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I think you may be missing the larger point which is that we’re actively listening (easy to do) and responding (much harder to do) to a broad cross section of users. Simply put it isn’t Fincher and the Coens. Nor is it solely larger media companies (what I tend to focus on). We have demonstrated that for several years now and I think most people would acknowledge that.
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[Herb Sevush] “ecognition is both free and powerful.”
Until people start claiming ownership of those features and sue you.
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[Bill Davis] “What David Fincher needs may or may not be what the 10,000 editors working closest to his geographic location also need”
Except that better trimming tools and features like “render and replace” DO benefit EVERY editor that uses the software. In many cases feature film editors function as the “canary in the coal mine”.
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[Oliver Peters] “Except that better trimming tools and features like “render and replace” DO benefit EVERY editor that uses the software. In many cases feature film editors function as the “canary in the coal mine”.”
I think in some cases, feature film editors might be more the “squeaky wheels that get the grease.”
Good features always lead to more feature requests. Render and replace has really been needed since dynamic link was introduced. Gone Girl wasn’t the first project where someone realized it’d be great if those comps were real, usable, manageable media. The rest of us had just been jumping through hoops with manual renders and project links.
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Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Tony West] “It looks like they were working fine with it the old way before the change”
Agreed. I got that impression, too, in talking with them. I also have a film that went through FCPX at the same time, but I opted to stay with 10.0.9 until the final conform of the RED files.
[Tony West] “Around 10:09 Cioni puts up a letter on screen that he wrote to Apple about how they are going to go about pulling this off. He is in communication with them from very early on.
This makes common sense to me. Apple had a great interest in this film being successful. It would be stupid for them to just leave them on their own and not help them.”Apple is in communication with a lot of people. The question is whether they directly act on the suggestions.
[Tony West] “If they failed.”
Actually if they failed, the editors would have been fired and a different team would have been put in place. It happens all the time. So the stakes were high for making X work, no matter what it took. That’s why Mike ran a parallel FCP7 project all the way until the end, just to keep the studio happy and to have a fall-back position.
[Tony West] “The success of this film would be Apple’s success.”
While that’s quite true, what it really means is that Apple is more than happy to enjoy the praise, but doesn’t necessarily directly help or intercede in the process. That was the case with “Cold Mountain” and it was also the case when large post shops deployed Xsan for shared storage in mission critical environments.
Apple takes input and looks at how users perform their workflows, but in the end, they toss the software out that they’ve created and then it’s up to users to use it or not.
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Lennon….FCPX….
“I’m an artist/editor, you give me a tuba/Sony Vegas, I’ll bring you something out of it…”
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The traditional media sure.
But you and I have probably “consumed” as much single source creative content as we have collaborative – if you accept that every email, tweet, snapchat and vine consumed was created largely by a single brain.
It’s easier to make the collaborative rule stick if you start out being able to define and restrict “entertainment” in the narrow way you’ve been traditionally conditioned.
Heck, I just racked up another few seconds of you and a lot of others spending time consuming MY “creative content” right here.
; )
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[Oliver Peters] “Apple is in communication with a lot of people. “
Not like that.
[Oliver Peters] “The question is whether they directly act on the suggestions.
“There is no need for them to be in that type of back in fourth with him if they are not going to do anything for
him.I never saw him say anything negative about Apple
[Oliver Peters] “Actually if they failed, the editors would have been fired “
That wouldn’t have helped Apple though. They had a vested interest in them succeeding. That’s pretty obvious to me.
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Let’s not forget that all this hubbub about cutting the movie Focus gave some very need exposure to a pretty foul B-movie with a 56-rating on Rotten Tomatoes. The message to Apple was probably “Help, we’ve got a real mess on our hands here, if we fail so do you.” Whooptie Doo, what an accomplishment, there have been better films spliced together by hand with Scotch Tape.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist & Workflow Consultant
David Weiss Productions
Los AngelesDavid is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.
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