January 2, 2013 at 9:36 pm
[Steve Connor] “That’s not entirely correct, if you have longer connected clips that connect outside”
Well of course there are contextual situations where it doesn’t work. Precisely as in Legacy where you could have elected to compound your titles into nested sequences or other conventions that would keep that from working precisely the way if would if you’d arranged things differently.
But look, when I first started cutting some broadcast spots in X, I spent some time FIRST laying down a virtual SLUG of that length and working with everything else as connected clips.
Now when I sit down to cut a broadcast :30 – I hardly EVER do that. I’m confident that I can trim and arrange things to create a perfect 29:29 without the crutch of a pre-selected timing track.
I’ve evolved in my thinking. Again, not better or worse (well in honesty, it’s better for ME in MY brain, but that surely won’t be universally true for everyone) just different.
Now that I’m better with it, it’s fun to explore how to approach projects differently using X’s strengths – rather than just trying to cut the work exactly like I did back in Legacy.
Nobody can stop anyone from using the tool the way they like. But it is fair to point out that not using the tool AS it’s designed to be used can mean misunderstanding it’s strengths and weaknesses.
After all, it’s perfectly possible to LOCK a battery power screwdriver and simply twist it to remove a screw as if it was unpowered – but most folks understand that if that’s how you’re going to force it to work, it’s fair to ask if the reason the work is going slowly is because of the tool at all.
I’m hugely sympathetic to those for whom X’s current feature set falls short of what they need to get their jobs done and reject it on that basis. And think they’re being totally rational in not adopting it.
But it DOES require someone to understand how it works, to decide whether it can or can’t work for them. And while the ranks of those who understand it well are clearly growing – there are obviously still far more editors who do NOT understand how X actually works, than those who do.
Hopefully, time will change that.
But we’lll see.
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January 2, 2013 at 11:25 pm
The fact you can’t simply delete a range has got absolutely nothing to do with the new paradigm, or the fact that FCPX is a new way of thinking, which of course is correct for much in FCPX.
It’s probably down to the fact that they haven’t added it yet. after all we’ve only just got range export.
Jeremy, of course there’s a simple way of achieving what the OP wanted as your movie shows, and it’s no great problem that we haven’t got range delete. I’m just saying it might be a nice addition.
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
January 2, 2013 at 11:41 pm
I’m with you, Steve.
I’d also like a reverse operation of the “trim to selection”.
Or a “blade range” option.
January 15, 2015 at 9:15 pm
Unless anything has change I still agree that this is a slower workaround than FCP7. Again as others have said, it has nothing to do with paradigms, it’s simply an extra step and that makes editing slower.
I love FCPX by the way. I would hate to cut with 7 again.
In addition to in out delete, no one has mention in out copy. At the moment I’m having to blade both layers, select them manually and copy that section. That is a destructive method. I then go to a new timeline (which is really simple with the arrow key on the left of the current timeline) and paste on my other timeline.
So in addition to deleting the in/out, how do you copy it?
June 2, 2023 at 12:36 am
Over a decade ago on Dec 29, 2012 Matt Orfalea asked
“In fcp7 I used to be able to mark in and out points in the timeline and ripple delete everything in between. In my multiple layer fcp x timeline I try to delete all between an in and out point but only the top layer deletes. Wtf? Please help!”
I recently switched from Screenflow to FCX and had the same issue. It IS easier and faster to “I” “O” “Delete” compared to the way the new defaults are set up.
After 2 hours of trying to do what Matt originally posted about I found this thread and realized it’s not possible. But someone here pretty much said you need to think of FCX in a totally different paradigm, which got me thinking in a different way.
What I ended up doing was going into the shortcut menu and changing the “all blade” buttons to “C.” I then changed the “delete/backspace” button to “S.”
Now all I have to do is press “C” at the start of the range, “C” at the end of the range, then click the clip and press “S.”
This way is faster and way easier than the “Shift+Command+B” version and even faster than the “I” “O” “Delete” used in other softwares and the previous version on final cut because of the layout of the buttons on the keyboard. With putting all of the shortcuts on the left side of the keyboard you don’t even have to lift your fingers. It cut down the process of cutting out clips from my movies by 75% or more.
Hope this helps!
June 2, 2023 at 4:23 pm
So I just found a way to make it EVEN FASTER to cut clips.
If you only have one clip on a timeline you can click “[” to delete everything to the left, or “]” to clip delete everything to the right.
But those keys are all the way on the right side on the keyboard.
And it doesn’t work if you have multiple layers.
So what I do is I get all of my layers stacked up evenly. Then I compound them together. Then I change my keyboard shortcuts to make “C” the “blade all” function instead of having to move my hand in a weird way to click Shift-Alt-B. Then I change the “[” shortcut to “D.”
Now as I’m going through my timeline all I need to do is click “C” which makes the cut, and when I get to the area I want to cut out, I click “D” without even lifting my fingers. And this AUTOMATICALLY deletes the clip you don’t want.
So now I don’t even have to manually click on the clip in the timeline before deleting it. Just clicking “D” right after clicking “C” automatically does that for me.
This way is probably the most efficient way possible to make cuts in your videos. If you are just cutting out silence from your videos you can use Recut and other software to do it automatically. And for all the “um’s” and filler words you can use Descript. But for the times when you mess up your lines or need to edit out certain parts of videos that aren’t those two examples, I think this is the fastest way possible.