Multiple layer in to out delete

[Tom Wolsky]

Use Cmd-B or Cmd-Shift-B to cut multiple layers.

All the best,

Tom

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[Matt Orfalea]

Hi Tom,

It’s not a matter a just cutting through multiple layers. I want to select multiple layers by just by using in and out points in the timeline like in fcp7.

In fcp7 I could save a ton of time by marking in and out points in a timeline (not just a clip or layer) and deleting everything in between (ripple deleting)

This is faster than cutting one end, cutting through clips on the other end, selecting the whole group and deleting.

I’m able to do this with one layer of audio (mark in, mark out, delete) but when I have two audio layers (separate clips), only one layer is effected/selected. Is there a way to mark in and out points in the timeline that select everything in between rather than one measly layer in the timeline?

Help greatly appreciated. So disappointed with fcpx.

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[Tom Wolsky]

No, it doesn’t work the way other applications work.

All the best,

Tom

“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
“Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”

[Jeremy Garchow]

Blade all at “in” point, blade all at “out” point. Delete clip in primary.

[Bret Williams]

Beat me to it. Essentially same number of steps. But still FCP 7 a bit better in this area. Blading is a bit more destructive than marking a point of course.

[Don Smith]

I’ve encountered a number of people who are ‘disappointed’ in FCPX and it always comes back to expecting FCPX to be FCP7. But then, after they stick with it for a little longer, they suddenly ‘get it’ and are grateful for the power that comes in FCPX.

You don’t ‘get it’ yet and I don’t mean that as an insult. I’m just telling you from the perspective of being on the other side of ‘getting it’ that you are in for a great experience once you are assimilated. (sorry for the Borg reference!)

I see postings here on the forum similar to yours; WHY doesn’t FCPX work like FCP7? If it did then FCPX would simply be FCP 8. Instead, editing was brought out of a 100-year-old paradigm and into the new millennium and I’m so grateful that Randy Ubillos and his team had the vision.

FCPX is a paradigm shift in editing. I was a fast editor before but FCPX has doubled my editing speed.

I know. It hurts the brain to adapt to the new way of editing but stay with it and you’ll have your ‘ah-HA!’ moment.

As for cutting out sections, you may be running into trouble because you are trying to force your clips into a FCP 7 arrangement. If so, then just let connected clips connect like they want to. Delete the section on the main storyline and anything connected to it goes away as well. You can also make connected clips connect elsewhere along its length by holding OPTION-COMMAND and clicking on the bottom of a connected clip. That way you may be able to make it stay or go away depending on what you do to the clip the connected clip is now attached to.

Don Smith
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[Steve Connor]

I would hope that as we now have the ability to export ranges, the functionality to delete ranges will also be added at some point, it’s would be a slightly more elegant way than blading in and out.

Steve Connor
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[Matt Orfalea]

I totally agree steve. And thank you for putting it simply. I’m looking for a fast way to delete ranges.

to do that in fcpx takes MORE steps/time than in fcp7, considering after cutting in and out points, you need to select all the clips in between before deleting. That is an extra step that slows an editor down.

I’d love to hear a solution though if anyone ever has one.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Matt Orfalea] “That is an extra step that slows an editor down.”

So is track patching in FCP7.

It’s a give and take.

A yin and yang.

There isn’t a way to do what you are trying to do quite like FCP7, but…

You could also compound the clip, hit i, hit o, delete

To do that without a compound, here’s the steps.

Skim to your “in” point, command-shift-b, skim to your out point, command-shift-b, delete the center clip in the primary.

You can remap command-shift-b to whatever you want.

In FCP7 you hit i, o, delete in to out (3 steps).

In FCPX you skim and hit blade all, skim and hit blade all, delete the primary clip (3 steps).

The part that seems slower is that the moves aren’t familiar.

Jeremy

[Bret Williams]

You should not have to do anything but select the single clip in the primary. After blading all the clips, the resulting clips above the piece to be remove in the timeline will be connected to it.

However, as it has been pointed out, you may not need to blade. That’s just one circumstance. You may just need to do a range delete. Everything is going to ripple down anyway. So depending on the circumstance, the X method may be better or the legacy method may be better. Generally, in either case, a little bit of timeline surgery is going to be required after the fact. When you cut through everything in legacy, you’re butting everything up to each other. Potentially leaving the need for j/L cuts, dissolves, fixes to the music track, etc. to repair the damage. In X, if you don’t blade through everything, there is a possibility of screwing up music sync for sure. But the visuals may or may not work just fine, depending on where they are cocnnected. Its nice that visuals to the left and visuals to the right will get interwoven or overlapped when you delete a range in primary. Then you’re free to adjust just how they transition together without having destroyed preset in and out points of the clips.

There just is no right way. Either method is likely to require adjustment after the delete. Legacy gives quite a few more options like locking tracks, patching, and those little autoselect options. All of which can potentially add to or screw up what your’e trying to do and all of which require quite a few keystrokes and clicks to set. X’s method for better or worse is to simplify. Usually just deleting the clip in the primary and then making an adjustment or two is a good trade-off to all the locking, and setting and then repairing. But sometimes you need to blade through things like long video or music clips so that everything ripples or doesn’t lose sync.

It just different. Arguably faster in many situations. Arguably problematic in others. Some people are missing the TTT function too but that’s a similar situation where X already works in that mode by default for most things.