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  • Bill Davis

    December 30, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    [Bret Williams] “It just different. Arguably faster in many situations. Arguably problematic in others. Some people are missing the TTT function too but that’s a similar situation where X already works in that mode by default for most things.”

    This is very true.

    It’s also true that the longer you continue to “see” X’s operations as reflections of what you’re accustomed to doing in another editor – the more difficulty you’ll have in “getting” it.

    Personally, I simply don’t “construct” my videos the way I used to at all.

    I simply don’t start out by thinking in “linear whole program” segments as much anymore. (Unless that fits precisely what I need to do) Instead, my default thinking has become what does THIS stack of connected clips need to do at this point in time. That may or may not be related to a central “timekeeping” base track – which was the ONLY way I could think about it in Legacy – but now I have whole new modes of construction that I can consider.

    That’s one of the huge differences here. But you can’t expect to work in this new modular mode, if ALL you have experience in in a linear track mode.

    Just give yourself time. Before you know it, the things the X timeline does really, really well will reveal themselves. And then you’ll have MORE options than you had previously.

    Hope that helps.

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  • Steve Connor

    December 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Interesting ideas, but they still doesn’t get round the fact that a simple “delete range” option would be the fastest way to delete a section of your project. It’s never been a major pain for me to “cut” the section out, but it would be a nice little addition.

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Bill Davis

    December 31, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Steve,

    I don’t disagree, but I also know that when the very term “range” is used, an FCP Legacy editor and a FCP-X editor will think about that thing very differently. They ‘ll both be thinking about it as a sub-selection of a clip. But the systems built into the two software packages that allow you to do things to and with the selection in the context of editing operations are VERY different. Until an editor understands the similarities and differences in how each work, it’s really easy to get stuck being angry that ” this thing doesn’t work like I expect it to.” That’s a given, confirmed here a hundred times over.

    The equally fair point is that the way it does work, works really, really well for a wide range of common editing tasks, and, in fairness, not nearly as well for others.

    And so it goes.

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  • Andy Neil

    January 1, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    [Matt Orfalea] “fter cutting in and out points, you need to select all the clips in between before deleting.”

    No you don’t. Just select the clip in the primary. After you blade all the layers, those bladed connected clips will establish connections with the bladed clip in the primary. If you delete the primary clip, all clips connected to it will delete as well.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Bill Davis

    January 2, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    A nearly perfect example of someone “seeing” X in terms of a (quite reasonable) Legacy mindset.
    The thought that the only way to cut and delete a ” stack” of clips is to select them all individually is thinking rooted in the older track paradigm . After you’ve taken the time to understand the entire “connected clip” underpinnings of X, you intuitively know that deleting a cut out a “stack” of clips requires no further selection beyond the clip in the primary as Andy sagely points out.

    The X editor sees that differently from the way a Legacy editor sees it.

    Despite all the gnashing of teeth here – the two processes actually aren’t all that different in the ability to arrange scenes and A/V assets over time.

    Which is all that really matters.
    ; )

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  • Steve Connor

    January 2, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    [Bill Davis] “you intuitively know that deleting a cut out a “stack” of clips requires no further selection beyond the clip in the primary as Andy sagely points out.

    That’s not entirely correct, if you have longer connected clips that connect outside of where you are cutting in the primary then they may still need to be trimmed after you’ve made the cut.

    “Delete Range” would be much cleaner, it’s not the matter of a legacy mindset or not!

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Andy Neil

    January 2, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    [Steve Connor] “if you have longer connected clips that connect outside of where you are cutting in the primary then they may still need to be trimmed after you’ve made the cut.”

    The first step regarding OPs question was to blade all at the in point and blade all at the out point. If you do that, then there are no connected clips that connect outside of where you want to delete in the primary. You are creating new connected clips at the blade all point.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Steve Connor

    January 2, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    [Andy Neil] “The first step regarding OPs question was to blade all at the in point and blade all at the out point. If you do that, then there are no connected clips that connect outside of where you want to delete in the primary. You are creating new connected clips at the blade all point.

    Yes of course, but even taking that into account it’s still 4 steps instead of 2!

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Andy Neil

    January 2, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    I’m not saying a “delete range”, or even “select multi-range” wouldn’t be helpful. I’m just trying to answer OPs question and correct his misconception.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 2, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    A movie:

    Blade All then delete

    I have remapped blade-all to the ‘b’ key.

    Skim, b, skim, b, delete the middle.

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