Multicam edit – with sequences not clips

[Arnie Schlissel]

That’s not how you do it. The manual spells this out very clearly. Look up “multiclip sequence” in the online manual.

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[Amber Navarrete]

That doesn’t help me. Anyone else have a suggestion?

[Shane Ross]

That doesn’t help you? He gives you the RIGHT answer, and because it isn’t what you wanted to hear it “doesn’t help you?” Wow…

That IS the answer. You cannot make multicam groups with sequences, nor nested sequences. They need to be actual honest-to-god QT files I guess you can nest each sequence and then layer them, and make each smaller (SCALE) and move them to corners of the screen…that is the “poor man’s multicam” that we did before FCP 5 came out.

Or you can look into PLURAL EYES (google it) and that will take all of your footage and group them all on separate layers, even if they are spread out amongst several clips.

Is THAT the answer you want?

Lordy…

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[Anthony Moreschi]

I just had to do something similar. There may be a better way to do this, but this is how I did it.

First, I laid all angles down in 1 sequence and got everything synched up. Then in that sequence I cut up the clips so that each angle had the same in points (this allows you to make the multiclip later on). I had 5 angles and my sequence was broken up into 7 sections with matching in points. Then you take each section and grab all angles/clips for that section and put them in a new bin. Repeat that last step so that you have a seperate bin for each section. Next you go to your first bin and select all the clips and make your multiclip. Use the in points to synch. This will drop a new multiclip in your bin. Repeat this for all bins. Now create a new sequence and drag you multiclips in.

In my case, not all the sections started at the same point, so in the original sequence, I had to trim each section to have the same in point as the clip with the latest in point in the section. Then once the multiclips are made you can drag out your in points if you need to.

I know that sounds confusing but I hope that helps. If anyone knows an easier, or the correct way to do this please let me know.

[Amber Navarrete]

In my defense I always address the manual before I post. I expect to get tips/tricks from the experts when posting to this forum. There are many ways of achieving the same results.

All answers have been helpful.

Thx,
Amber

[Steven Gladstone]

I just edited a music video, and not being ready to jump into multicam (didn’t read the manual not ready for that yet), I used a suggestion I got here which was to line up the cips, and then using the basic motion tab, shrunk each clip to 40% and moved them to the corners. Cumbersome, but it worked well. Perhaps this will help.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5iszlSlVPI

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[Jeremy Belzer-adams]

Have you tried exporting quicktime reference movies of the sequences and then bringing them back in as separate clips? I’ve never tried it, but off the top of my head I dont see why it wouldn’t work.

[David Bogie]

Sheesh, you kids. Why, when I was your age we recorded iso feeds of multiple cameras to 2″ quad machines located in the basement.

amber, before you try to edit these sequences in the multiclip interface, be sure you are plenty comfortable with the whole paradigm. Be sure to practice on some smaller, less complex pieces before you commit to a workflow that may take more time and effort than you could possibly recover.

For me, the only way to use multiclip for HD material is at the offline level and that would require getting all of the P2 clips assembled, exported as self-contained lo-rez movies, and brought back in. I’d be doing that with burned-in camera numbers and timecode but that’s just me and it’s a product of my mistrust of producers who can’t direct their own way out of restroom stall but who want to call all the shots. This often ends up with several slugs of black from cameras that were off or changing chips or in the hands of incompetent shooters.
After the edit was locked, I’d recapture or relink to the high rez source. But that’s just me.

bogiesan

[Alex Lee]

Making a non self contained, or reference movie will work fine.

The file size will be smaller & the exports for each angle will be quicker.

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[Alex Lee]

Edit – Although I’m curious if this has an effect on CPU and disk performance.

Whilst recently working on a project I’d exported several reference Quicktimes comprised of several tapes worth of footage with dozens of TC breaks in each. Mainly so I could work with one multclip which would minimize the possibility of sync errors further down the line. This process was then repeated for the 5 additional cameras.

If the non self contained movie file has to reference the original individual items of media that make up the source of the file. Then surely there’s additional processing power involved here?

And as you know if you’ve used multiclips in FCP, you need as a fair amount of the systems resources to stream at a decent playback quality.

Does anyone know of any information regarding this?

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Alex

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