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  • More than 12dB of gain with audio?

    Posted by Annaël Beauchemin on August 2, 2006 at 9:49 pm

    Hello

    So far the only way I found to add more than 12dB of gain with FCP is to use the Pre-gain of the AUPeakLimiter plugin. It’s an odd way of adding gain but it does it for me.

    I sometime teach/give advice to some fellows editors, and I always feel that there must be a prettier way of adding more than 12dB of gain inside of FCP. Or then Apple overlooked something fundamental…

    Any tips?
    Thanx

    Travis Ballstadt replied 19 years, 9 months ago 9 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Tom Matthies

    August 2, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    I like to use the Compressor/Limiter filter, check the “Preserve Volume” box and adjust until I get the desired effect and level. You have lots of gain available.
    Tom

  • Bryan Rawles

    August 2, 2006 at 10:18 pm

    Just double the audio clip in the time line. By stacking the same audio clip you can get a pretty good boost.

    -Bryan

    Impact Productions

  • Victor Angry

    August 2, 2006 at 10:25 pm

    Apply 12dB gain, nest clip, apply more gain to nested sequence.

  • Doug Olin

    August 2, 2006 at 11:54 pm

    You could also send the audio over to Soundtrack Pro and use the normalize feature. It’s outside of FCP but it is an alternative that I recently used with great success.

    Doug Olin
    Desert Vistas Multimedia
    http://www.desertvistasmm.com

  • Travis Ballstadt

    August 3, 2006 at 3:08 am

    I hate this solution. Too easy to cause a phase problem and then have no audio on export.

    travis ballstadt
    http://www.thrillcateditorial.com

  • Travis Ballstadt

    August 3, 2006 at 3:09 am

    I meant I hated the duplicate the audio on a new track solution. I forgot it’s hard on here to tell exactly what I’m responding to. the other ideas are good.

    travis ballstadt
    http://www.thrillcateditorial.com

  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    August 3, 2006 at 4:41 am

    [Le Coyote] “So far the only way I found to add more than 12dB of gain with FCP is to use the Pre-gain of the AUPeakLimiter plugin. It’s an odd way of adding gain but it does it for me.

    Nothing “odd” about adding a filter to “change” anything in a digital edit.

    The AUPeakLimiter is a standard method used to increase level.

    I keep a copy of it set to +18 in my “Favorites Folder” ready to drop on a low clip.

    I also have several “Pre-adjusted” versions of the Compressor/Limiter Filter in there.

  • Annaël Beauchemin

    August 3, 2006 at 4:47 pm

    [Thax] “othing “odd” about adding a filter to “change” anything in a digital edit.

    The AUPeakLimiter is a standard method used to increase level.

    I keep a copy of it set to +18 in my “Favorites Folder” ready to drop on a low clip.

    I also have several “Pre-adjusted” versions of the Compressor/Limiter Filter in there.”

    I do have gain, compressor and limiter presets lying around. I just whish I could go beyond 12dbs of gain as easily as I can for the first 12dbs. I thought there was maybe a way to shift-command-whatever clic and go beyond 12dbs…

    Using a plugin is ok, but why didn’t they include a simple “Gain” plugin? I get a wondering face and a silence everytime I tell ppl to use the Pre-gain of the AUPeakLimiter plugin to add more than 12dbs. I wonder how much time was lost by all of us trying to figure how to add more than 12dbs of gain the first time we had to.

    Duplicating the clip makes things too complex because when you want to use compressors or limiters, you then have to put the filters on each instance of the clip. And then when you want to make changes, you have to apply filters to the whole bunch of audio clips again…

    I also try to avoid nesting clips, especialy audio. I always had trouble with nests at some point in complex timelines.

    Anyway, a big thank you all for the suggestions 🙂

  • David Bogie

    August 3, 2006 at 5:30 pm

    DynamicsProcessor filter.
    Direct, easy, sweet, non-destructive, tons o’gain plus many additional audio geeky controls if you need them

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Alan Lacey

    August 4, 2006 at 7:30 pm

    Typical FCP

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    Alan

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