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Mac Pro refresh at WWDC?
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[Michael Gissing] “And what Apple software is so important that a cross platform alternative is unavailable?”
I think many here would argue OS X and FCPX.
Functionally, they may be inaccurate, but from a user experience perspective, I think this could be a matter of taste that’s impossible to argue, and from a comfort or retraining perspective, they may be right on.
That’s part of why I specifically separate preference for OS X from fear of Windows.
[Michael Gissing] “Have any of those afraid of Windows had any recent experience with Win 7 64 bit?”
I suspect not. Look at the language here around Windows — it’s “the dark side” or “gives me the shivers” or “would rather do self-flagellation.”
I get it, though. I was a Mac guy and Apple evangelist who was really suspicious of Windows until I started actually using it. I had to see for myself that Windows 7 worked really well before I believed it.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Alan Okey] “If Apple kills off its most capable hardware (the Mac Pro line) for the market that would invest in Smoke, the Deal Is Off.”
Not necessarily. If the iMac can deliver, then I, for one, would consider buying an iMac, AJA IO XT, and Promise R6 to support Smoke 2013 on Mac. Consider it a turn-key system just like Smoke Advanced on an HP with Linux.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Michael Gissing] “[Steve Conner]”I’m really going to enjoy it when the new MacPros are launched next week, so many people to point and laugh at :)”
Seems like a petty thing to want to do. And if you are wrong, should others point and laugh at you?”
I may also do a little dance
Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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Yeah a read that, but still I’m exited what will be announced at WWDC.
“You never want to get to get a call from the editing room”
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[Steve Connor] “[Michael Gissing] “[Steve Conner]”I’m really going to enjoy it when the new MacPros are launched next week, so many people to point and laugh at :)”
Seems like a petty thing to want to do. And if you are wrong, should others point and laugh at you?”
I may also do a little dance”
It might be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNGc9zmpK5M
Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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[Michael Gissing] “Have any of those afraid of Windows had any recent experience with Win 7 64 bit?”
I just recently installed Win 7 64 Ultimate using Parallels. What’s the difference between Ultimate and the others? I don’t know. Why do they have to have versions of the OS?
My first surprise (since I had not used Windows since XP) was the use of Local Disk (C). I’m not sure if Local Disk is there because I’m running in Parallels or not. Either way, why are they still using the nomenclature (C)? Weren’t the drive letters a pre-Windows DOS term? Obviously this is not a big deal. I just wonder why they do it. Especially for non-technical people. C? What’s C and where is A and B?
Then there’s Libraries, located on the left pane (not sure what it’s called) in and Explorer window. I’m not sure what Libraries are. By default it includes Documents. Under Favorites I have My Documents. If I put a file in My Documents (which resides in my user folder, then it shows up in Documents too. I don’t think Documents in Libraries is the same directory location as My Documents in my User directory, but for some reason they contain the same files. I found this confusing. I wanted to remove Libraries, but I couldn’t. I searched for a way but it either involves downloading some 3rd party app or modifying some REG EDIT files? No thanks. So I just removed everything under Libraries. Same goes for Homegroup, Computer and Network. Like it or not, they seem to have to stay.
Then I wanted to open a file inside an application. I got a different side panel set of options this time. Similar, but different. I can’t get rid of any of them either. I can’t seem to add anything either, like My Documents or any other Folder location. I can’t simply drag folders onto the side panel, as I would with Mac OS. Again, this does not seem to be something I can configure. At least not without additional software or some hacking to the OS.
I noticed Floppy Disk Drive (A:) showed up. I hope that had something to do with Parallels and not the OS or the Application I was using.
Perhaps these examples are too trivial for most to be concerned about. But they are issues I encountered right away and would most likely see every time I had to access the file system.
So, yes I’ve used a recent copy of Windows 7 64 bit and I didn’t care for it. Could I work with it? I suppose. Although I hope I don’t have to.
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[Michael Gissing] “Have any of those afraid of Windows had any recent experience with Win 7 64 bit? “
I’d been an aggressive Mac advocate for nearly 20 years, almost never touching a Windows machine. Last year, after the release of FCPX, I bought a Dell desktop replacement laptop (XPS 17). I thought I’d start getting used to Windows in case the industry shifts away from Mac, which had been a slowly growing suspicion of mine over the past 5 years.
Using Premiere CS5 and CS5.5 on the Windows laptop was far easier than I’d expected, and the performance just killed my MPB (admittedly, not really a fair fight since it is 13″ MBP). The only reasons I still used the Mac more than the PC was familiarity with OSX, stubbornness, and the fact that the curriculum I teach is still uses Macs.
Objectively looking at the situation, I’d say the experience is about the same on both. Both Windows 7 and OSX have things that are frustrating to me. Sadly, the annoyances on OSX are growing (to me, Lion is an example of Apple’s new “we know what’s best for you” philosophy), while the annoyances with Windows have been shrinking over the years.
I am most likely doing the change-over to Windows laptops in my curriculum this year, rather than next year or later as I had planned. I now am convinced that the industry will indeed shift to Windows as a result of Apple’s new direction. Given the fact that for the same price as the entry-level 13″ MBP, I can get a 17″, dual HD Windows laptop with a CUDA-enabled NVidia card and Blu-Ray, it just does not make sense for me to force my students to purchase the lesser machine. It pains me to say it, but dollar for dollar, that lesser machine is the Mac. It used to be worth the extra money for a Mac, because you would get extra performance or a vastly superior interface. I no longer believe this is the case.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Kevin Patrick] “Perhaps these examples are too trivial for most to be concerned about.”
Yes, they are. I can go thru OSX and nit pick it as well. Tell me how easy it is to totally uninstall FCP from a MAC, and then look at the “remove programs” feature in Windows with awe and wonder. So what’s the point. Both OSX and Windows 7 can easily be operated by anyone smart enough to open a beer can. Whoever can’t should stick with crayons.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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[Jules bowman] “In defence of Steve, though i am sure he doesn’t need defending, banter is par for the course in the uk and he was bantering. and if he is wrong I’ve no doubt he will take the return banter quite admirably. It is just wit. It works very well. And it is funny and generally comes with an underlying respect and affection. People should try it sometime. Though it may take 6 to 9 months of really getting to grips with the nuts and bolts of it, especially if it is a new paradigm for you and different to your usual modus operandi. And if after all that you still don’t get it, try holding it differently”
Nice, I’m thinking of collecting all the funny, esoteric and downright rude posts and exchanges from this forum and using them as dialogue in a feature script about a bunch of Editors who go on a road trip across America to “find themselves.” Along the way they have many adventures and indulge in much witty banter about the nature of editing and life itself.
Who’s in?
Steve Connor
“The ripple command is just a workaround for not having a magnetic timelinel”
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[Herb Sevush] “Tell me how easy it is to totally uninstall FCP from a MAC”
Install FCPX? Okay, that doesn’t unistall it, but it does kind of move it out of the way.
Like I said, my examples are probably too trivial. Although I would like the OS to either help me be more efficient, or get out of the way. Which I didn’t encounter on my brief journey back.
[Herb Sevush] “Windows 7 can easily be operated by anyone smart enough to open a beer can”
I’m not so sure about that. I installed Win 7 on my Mac because a friend of mine needed Win 7 for a particular application that was not on a Mac and I needed to help them out. (plus it gave me a reason to peek back at the Win side of things) They needed to open up Note Pad, the Win version of TextEdit. I suggested looking in Program Files, since any application your looking for on a Mac is in Applications. Well Note Pad isn’t in Program Files. Why not? I don’t know. I guess Program Files has most of the programs you’ll need but not all the programs you’ll need. You can find Note Pad using Start > All Programs > Accessories. Which might lead you to think Note Pad is in a folder called Accessories, but it’s not. Accessories simply contains a Shortcut to Note Pad. Turns out Note Pad is located in the folder Windows. Make sense?
Yet another trivial example? Yes, I will concede that.
Will I be able to make the transition to Win if I have to? Yes.
Is Win 7 as easy to operate as a beer can? Assuming you’ve been opening other cans, I’m not so sure.
I hope I haven’t started a Win vs. Mac discussion. I’m not interested in bashing Windows.
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