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  • Herb Sevush

    June 5, 2012 at 12:38 am

    [Viktor Kamenický] “Is it gonna FINALLY happen? “

    Did you read all the way through the article?

    “Apple not updating the Mac Pro for sometime leads us to believe that it may stay un-updated, so perhaps a new Mac mini is in the cards for WWDC.”

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Alan Okey

    June 5, 2012 at 12:49 am

    Duplicate post… My apologies…

  • Alan Okey

    June 5, 2012 at 12:57 am

    When the effective price difference between Smoke on OS X and Smoke on Linux is at least $40K (if not more), it becomes a Very Big Deal Indeed for a certain subset of the post market.

    To be blunt: For this particular market, FCP X will never cut it. Smoke is pretty much the only saving grace of OS X at this point. If Apple kills off its most capable hardware (the Mac Pro line) for the market that would invest in Smoke, the Deal Is Off.

    Autodesk’s own employees and evangelists will freely admit that Smoke on a Mac Pro will trounce Smoke on an iMac. Furthermore, the Smoke gurus (Grant Kay, etc.) will freely admit that Smoke on Linux trounces Smoke on OS X on ANY currently available Mac.

    Let’s be clear here: Apple has removed (or will soon remove) itself from being a player in the high-end post market as far as its hardware offerings are concerned. As a result, a certain subset of users will be forced to embrace either Linux or Windows systems if they want to remain competitive from a price/performance perspective.

    Apple is doing very well, financially speaking. Will users’ allegiance to Mac OS X follow suit? Or will users’ ability to embrace new technology and adopt the current best solution for the job define their future?

  • Michael Gissing

    June 5, 2012 at 1:09 am

    [Michael Gissing] “And what Apple software is so important that a cross platform alternative is unavailable?”

    FCP 7
    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

    Which is why my MacPro will remain in the rack for a while. But I won’t be buying another Mac just for Legacy. My late 2009 octo is fine for FCP7 but I will go to a Win machine for CS6 and Resolve when the dust settles. I will also trial Smoke but grading is more important to me than compositing so I am not sure if Smoke is ideal for me on long form docos.

  • Chris Harlan

    June 5, 2012 at 1:50 am

    [Herb Sevush] “[Viktor Kamenický] “Is it gonna FINALLY happen? ”

    Did you read all the way through the article?

    “Apple not updating the Mac Pro for sometime leads us to believe that it may stay un-updated, so perhaps a new Mac mini is in the cards for WWDC.”

    Maybe he meant “Is it gonna finally NOT happen?”

  • Jules Bowman

    June 5, 2012 at 2:19 am

    In defence of Steve, though i am sure he doesn’t need defending, banter is par for the course in the uk and he was bantering. and if he is wrong I’ve no doubt he will take the return banter quite admirably. It is just wit. It works very well. And it is funny and generally comes with an underlying respect and affection. People should try it sometime. Though it may take 6 to 9 months of really getting to grips with the nuts and bolts of it, especially if it is a new paradigm for you and different to your usual modus operandi. And if after all that you still don’t get it, try holding it differently.

  • Gary Huff

    June 5, 2012 at 2:30 am

    Yeah, I don’t get this. The article states:

    Apple is also planning to refresh a fourth piece of their Mac line, and this leaves the Mac mini and the Mac Pro. We are currently unsure whether or not the Mac Pro or Mac mini will be the fourth Mac updated at the conference, but both Macs are due for a refresh, especially the Mac Pro.

    Frankly, I’m perplexed that they think it could be the Mac Pro when it’s clearly going to be an update to the Mini.

    If Apple would put a decent GPU in the damn thing (a 1GB AMD 7000M or NVIDIA 600M would be ideal), I’ll buy one. It would be a good desktop machine for when I want to run OSX apps instead of having to dig out the 17″ every time. Unless they give the 17″ one more go with Ivy Bridge and USB3 (and ExpressCard). Then I’d get that one.

  • Alan Okey

    June 5, 2012 at 2:54 am

    Sorry, the 17″ doesn’t fit with iApple’s iPlans. The 17″ will be he next casualty after the Mac Pro, mark my words. Soon, there will be no Mac laptop with a PCIe slot. Apple is betting its future on Thunderbolt. That means Thunderbolt iMacs, Thunderbolt MacBooks and Thunderbolt iPads. Yes, the next generation iPad will feature Thunderbolt.

    Embrace your new Apple Thunderbolt overlords, or embrace Windows/Linux. Welcome to the iFuture.

  • Gary Huff

    June 5, 2012 at 3:41 am

    [Alan Okey] “The 17″ will be he next casualty after the Mac Pro, mark my words”

    Oh, I think it’s on its way out…I just want to see if they release an Ivy Bridge version. I’m coming at it from a DIT perspective, in which ExpressCard and USB3 would be ideal. If not, then I move to something else.

    [Alan Okey] ” Yes, the next generation iPad will feature Thunderbolt.”

    I bet it won’t. There’s a) no point to having Thunderbolt on the iPad and b) would require a redesigned Thunderbolt cable to fit a redesigned connector that would work with the iPad aesthetics OR would require a dongle. Given that Apple seems to be going for a slimmer connector, I highly doubt that there are enough pins that would make Thunderbolt a reasonable choice. If the iPad gets any kind of faster cable connection, it will be USB3 more than anything else.

    [Alan Okey] “Embrace your new Apple Thunderbolt overlords, or embrace Windows/Linux. Welcome to the iFuture.”

    Linux will require native Adobe apps before it goes mainstream in that way. So it’s Windows/OSX for the foreseeable future. I’m more than comfortable on both, and, frankly, Thunderbolt isn’t that bad of an option…if there were actually, you know, options for it. Where’s my eSATA adapter? Where’s my FW800 adapter? Where’s my USB3 adapter? Oh, they don’t exist yet. Belkin’s coming out with one in the fall, sans USB3 and eSATA. And Matrox is also coming out with one…but USB3 ports only. It’s like a comedy of errors.

    Terrible growing pains for sure, but will it turn into anything like it’s proponents tout it to be? I think the saving grace is that you can now get Thunderbolt outside of Apple. Perhaps that will finally spur on development.

  • Chris Harlan

    June 5, 2012 at 5:26 am

    [Gary Huff] “Where’s my eSATA adapter? “

    I’m using the LaCie eSATA adaptor and it works quite well. It also has pass-through, making it daisy chain-able.

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