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  • Losing resolution from After Effects to Avid

    Posted by Daniel Schultz on October 1, 2014 at 1:40 am

    I’m perplexed by this:

    I render out an animated logo in after effects (1920×1080, DNxHD).
    When I view the quicktime file from After Effects, the logo is super sharp.

    Then I bring the logo into Avid, and when I export (same as original codec), the logo is fuzzy.
    Both quicktime files from Avid and After Effects are 1920×1080. But one is sharp, the other is fuzzy.

    Of course this the client’s logo we’re having this problem with (sigh).

    Any ideas????

    Thanks again!

    Daniel Schultz replied 11 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Len Hugh

    October 1, 2014 at 6:23 am

    could it be that your video quality is not set to “green” / 10 bit?
    its an icon at the bottom of your timeline that you can use to toggle thru various qualities to help with playback

  • Daniel Schultz

    October 1, 2014 at 7:47 am

    Well, no, because this is after I export a QuickTime from avid with “Same as source” selected. Then when I compare avid’s QuickTime with after effects QuickTime–that’s where I see the big difference in resolution.

    Also I should clarify that I’m bringing the after effects animated logo into a avid.

  • Len Hugh

    October 1, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Sorry, I see that now in your 1st post. The only other thing I could add is what dnx res did you import it with. Could it have been compressed to say..dnx36 on import?

  • Daniel Schultz

    October 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    Hi Len, thanks for your response.

    The Avid project is set for DNxHD 115, and the after effects clip is AMA-linked.
    So the output, when I check in quicktime, is around 115. The after effects quicktime does appear higher, like around 175. Do you think that would make that big of a difference in resolution? The difference is really noticeable (especially to the client when it’s their logo—ha!).

    And if that is the problem, is the solution to upgrade the project to DNxHD 175 and re-import that clip?
    Everything else looks fine to me, it’s just the hard lines of the logo that you notice any loss in resolution.

  • Len Hugh

    October 1, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    I wouldn’t think there would be a substantial difference between 115 and 175, not the way you are describing it.

    I don’t work with AMA very often, I tend to transcode and work with low res mxf files (DNX36) and then reconform at a higher res when finished.

    All I can add is to transcode the ama files to DNX175,
    Or file->import the logo in and check your import options are set to 175 on the import window, then cut it in to your sequence.
    Or even try exporting using a custom quicktime codec, e.g. pro res.

    I seem to remember similar issues could occur if your format was set to SD in the project window. But I don’t think so as you have checked the output and its HD at around 115Mb

  • Michael Cheung

    October 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Can I confirm with you..

    1. You have an avid project at DNxHD 115
    2. You have a logo that you are creating from other media in after effects which looks super sharp
    3. You are exporting the logo from after effects in DNxHD 175
    4. You are AMA linking this logo to your DNxHD 115 project
    5. The logo looks OK within AVID?
    6. You export the logo as a DNxHD 115 or a 175 sequence – and the logo looks bad.

    Michael Cheung
    https://filmcutter.blogspot.com

  • Daniel Schultz

    October 2, 2014 at 2:36 am

    Hi Michael,

    Yes, you have the exact sequence.

    But I have good news!

    The problem was fixed when I transcoded rather than AMA-linked the logo files.
    (I think that was Len’s suggestion-thanks!)

    So, happy endings, thanks again to the genius of creative cow!

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