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Locating Clips
I’m fairly new to the MC Adrenaline, so forgive me if this is elementary, but I’ve just finished logging some 80 tapes and now want to go and find particular clips that may be in any of the 80 bins (1 per tape). I want to search for words I used in naming and commenting on the clips as I logged them. Then, ideally, the search results would load into a new bin or at least be highlighted somehow in their orignal bins. Is there any way to do this? I cannot seem to find any way to search/find/sift through multiple bins, only from inside a single bin. Please tell me I don’t have to make an “ubber” bin and either copy or duplicate all the clips from my 80 bins into it to do this kind of a search. That would be a bit silly for software of this caliber…
I guess if there are other alternatives (exporting the bin info to a database or something) that anyone uses, I would love to hear about those, too. Thanks much, as I learn the workflow.
Cheers,
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Actually…I was shocked by this too…
coming from the world of edit*….
searching across multiple bins to generate a new resulting bin was pretty common…and extremely fast…
but sifting in Avid limits the scope to that particular bin…
the only way around it is to put everythingin one bin…
and then sift within it…
but even Avid doesn’t reccommend that cause the DB get’s a little slow with big data sets….
Alex Udell
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[Alex Udell] “the only way around it is to put everythingin one bin…”
Actually, not ompletely true – you have one possible solution. If you have NOT subcliped your material,you can use the media tool to locate all master clips. You can organize the results into other bins. Again this works only with master clips and not subclips. You could use SuperBin, but that’s still not really a solution.
But yes, Avid’s limited search mechanism is a glaring limitation (especially compared to edit).
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Hi Les..
Fancy meeting you here! 🙂
Can you elaborate on what you mean by use “super bin”?
i have super bin enabled and I use it as way way to keep my layouts organized (as opposed to opening every bin in it’s own window….)
but maybe there’s a deeper function I’m missing….
Alex
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[Alex Udell] “Fancy meeting you here! :)”
Actually I’m not here much these days – pretty much in the FCP HD world at the moment.
[Alex Udell] “i have super bin enabled and I use it as way way to keep my layouts organized (as opposed to opening every bin in it’s own window….)”
That’s pretty much it. I’m not aware of any deeper functionality other than sifting across multiple bins might be a tad easier with SuperBin.
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A friend also suggested making a compiled database by exporting each of the bins’ info as a tab delimited .txt file and then opening it in something like Excel. That method, I found, is preferable as the Media Tool work-arounds which demand that the footage is already captured. I have only logged it all and do not want 80 tapes worth of shots digitized simply for searching purposes. A single bin can also cause throughput limitations and problems with this much metadata. So, just FYI, the tab delimited export feature seems to work well. You just have to be careful that each of the bins, as you export the metadata, are not sifted and that the columns you want to be able to search are visible. Thanks to the guru El Armstrong for this tip! And shame on AVID for being so slow to deal with such a basic functionality issue. Just ’cause you own the market doesn’t mean you should sit on your laurels (if that is the case here).
Cheers,
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[Ramsey] “Just ’cause you own the market doesn’t mean you should sit on your laurels (if that is the case here).”
I think you meant to say “used to own”.
It’s really not my intention to start a flame war, but the lack of a more modern search engine has been a glaring omission since the very beginning (’89). However, just as discreet edit* had an underlying architecture that advanced some pretty revolutionary functionality at the expense of some of the more basic ones, perhaps this is true of Avid’s archaic search and undo feature sets as well.
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Well said. I should presume that if it were a simple fix, it would have been done already.
Cheers. – Ramsey
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