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  • Kona 2 edit to tape with AJ-HD1200A issue

    Posted by Bob Zelin on April 30, 2005 at 2:36 am

    Hi –
    please forgive me, it’s Friday night, and I can’t figure this out.
    FCP HD, MAC G5, Kona 2, Panasonic AJ-HD1200A, house black. Everything works fine, editing is fine.

    Client is trying to output to tape “edit to tape”. The options to assemble edit are grayed out.
    I know that the AJ-HD1200A cannot do an insert edit, and I can successfully do a crash record to output to tape, but shouldn’t I be able to do an assemble out to this VTR?.

    Just for sanity reasons, we created a new project, and did the same tests with SD footage, and a Digi Beta VTR, and it worked fine – but in the HD project, we can’t do an assemble edit “edit to tape”.

    What stupid thing am I doing wrong?

    Bob Zelin

    Thanks –
    Bob Zelin

    Walter Biscardi replied 21 years ago 7 Members · 24 Replies
  • 24 Replies
  • Dom Silverio

    April 30, 2005 at 2:38 am

    Bob – the deck *can’t* do both Assemble and Insert edits.

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 30, 2005 at 1:28 pm

    [Bob Zelin] “but in the HD project, we can’t do an assemble edit “edit to tape”. “

    I’ve had no problems editing to tape with both Firewire control and RS-422 control. Make sure the RS-422 is set to the Panasonic 59.94 setting.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Dom Silverio

    April 30, 2005 at 3:43 pm

    True assemble edits Walter? I tried a few times but gave when I realized it was labeled as a non editing deck.

  • Bob Zelin

    April 30, 2005 at 3:44 pm

    Well, apparantly Walter says the AJ-HD1200A CAN do an assemble edit to tape, and MPE says it CANNOT.

    Who is correct?

    Bob Zelin

  • Gary Adcock

    April 30, 2005 at 3:56 pm

    Yes
    this deck will do insert and assemble edits but only via the optional SDI inputs, and then only at (1080/60i, 1080/59.94i, 1080/50i, 720/60P, 720/59.94P)

    I have only been able to get it to record over FW at 720p60 (DF & NDF) but it will not do an insert or
    assemble here do to the inaccuracy of deck control over FW ( that 3-5 frame slop )

    gary

    gary adcock

    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation

  • Bob Zelin

    April 30, 2005 at 9:34 pm

    Gary –
    with all due respect to you, you are incorrect – the AJ-HD1200A will NOT
    do insert edits with the HD-SDI option installed. I do not know where you get your information from.

    I am again asking for verification if the AJ-HD1200A will do an ASSEMBLE EDIT
    via FCP edit to tape.

    Thanks again –
    Bob Zelin

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 30, 2005 at 10:41 pm

    I’m in my shop right now laying off an Edit to Tape with absolutely ZERO issues, as I’ve not had any issues every in the past doing an Assemble edit to my 1200A either via Firewire control (which I’m testing now) or using RS-422 Control. Not really sure what’s going on with your client Bob or where you get your information from.

    Currently I just tested Firewire Control with Video In on the 1200A set to Firewire In. Black the test tape for 10 seconds. Set an In Point in the Sequence at 10 seconds, set the In Point at 10 seconds on Edit to Tape, voila. I can also Edit to Tape with RS-422 control using the HD-SDI input.

    Not sure where the rocket science is Bob, but for $32,000 I sure hope this deck can perform an Assemble Edit, and it does, perfectly.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 30, 2005 at 11:08 pm

    [gary adcock] “this deck will do insert and assemble edits but only via the optional SDI inputs, and then only at (1080/60i, 1080/59.94i, 1080/50i, 720/60P, 720/59.94P) “

    Gary, I’ll test that out tomorrow to see if I can get an insert edit to go. I actually haven’t tried that because I usually just cut an entire show to tape. That will be cool if insert really does work.

    Thanks for the tip and I’ll report back on this tomorrow. Do you own the deck too?

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Steve Covello

    April 30, 2005 at 11:08 pm

    Bob – I know this is an old trick, but now it has become the only way I output from FCP — which is to close out all the tabs on the canvas/timeline, drag the sequence to the viewer, and edit to tape from the viewer side. This seems to override numerous problems including that old compression conflict problem from back in FCP3. Also (I know you probably already know this but…) if you have switched around editing formats recently and FCP is not outputting to tape correctly, then quit and do the Panther Cache Cleaner routine, medium cleaning, on all options (system, user, etc.). Restart and see what happens. This cured all the problems I had where channels 1/2 were mysteriously being patched out to my DBeta on ch. 1 and 4. Go figger.

    Also, is the deck set to ref in or input video? I am not familiar with your deck, but I’ll assume it acts the same as most other sutdio decks. I can only output SDI from K2 with the deck set to Input Video reference — don’t know if this is the same for a FW output. I just loaded in the new driver and will check if this is fixed by now.

    Let us know how you fare. IN ALL CAPS!!! Just kidding 🙂 🙂

    steve covello
    double wide post

  • Steve Covello

    April 30, 2005 at 11:09 pm

    Bob – I know this is an old trick, but now it has become the only way I output from FCP — which is to close out all the tabs on the canvas/timeline, drag the sequence to the viewer, and edit to tape from the viewer side. This seems to override numerous problems including that old compression conflict problem from back in FCP3. Also (I know you probably already know this but…) if you have switched around editing formats recently and FCP is not outputting to tape correctly, then quit and do the Panther Cache Cleaner routine, medium cleaning, on all options (system, user, etc.). Restart and see what happens. This cured all the problems I had where channels 1/2 were mysteriously being patched out to my DBeta on ch. 1 and 4. Go figger.

    Let us know how you fare. IN ALL CAPS!!! Just kidding 🙂 🙂

    steve covello
    double wide post

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