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Is FCPX gaining any ground?
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[Bill Davis] “I’m not saying I can’t be wrong about things regarding X. I most certainly can. But my opinions are at least based on direct experience, whilst yours appear to be largely based on supposition.
“Bill, you keep making this argument, but it is faulty in the extreme. Both Aindreas and Herb, and myself, for that matter, have opinions based on OUR direct experience in the business of video/media production. If what was actually being discussed was “What is the best way to dip to black in FCP X” you would have a point, but that is NOT what is being discussed.
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[Bill Davis] “But my opinions are at least based on direct experience, whilst yours appear to be largely based on supposition. I’m comfortable arguing that somewhat strengthens my opinions and weakens yours.”
The opinion we are discussing is again quoted here:
Mark my words, the editing competition will be getting more and more and more like X – just as cel phones in general have gotten more and more like iPhones.
While it’s true you have a lot more experience with X, I will argue that I have a lot more experience with the NLE competition you are so pleased to forecast about and an equal knowledge of the market for iphones, so I guess that makes us both 1 win, 1 loss and 1 tie when it comes to experience vis-a-vis the quote in question.
Feel free to exalt in the wonders of X all you like, I never intrude on your joyful proclamations, but when you start pontificating on the state of the NLE market as a whole, you need to be a bit more accurate.
And I notice you still haven’t rebuffed the substance of my critique, I would imagine that’s because you can’t.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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I believe hover scrub in Adobe may have been influenced by skimming in FCPX.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the organizational features make into other NLEs as well such as smart collections.
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[Bill Davis] “Mark my words, the editing competition will be getting more and more and more like X – just as cel phones in general have gotten more and more like iPhones.”
This is why Franz cautions against analogies…
Have you used an Android phone lately? Or a Windows phoneI think they’ve leap-frogged the iPhone in user experience. If you look at common iPhone feature requests, the world is asking Apple to make the iPhone a bit more like other smartphones.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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[Craig Seeman] “I believe hover scrub in Adobe may have been influenced by skimming in FCPX.”
Scrubbing in thumbnails has been a Smoke feature for ages, and FCP Legend had picon scrubbing.
What’s new about the skimmer is removing the interaction required to place footage in the viewer, not rapidly reviewing footage from a bin.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “Have you used an Android phone lately? Or a Windows phoneI think they’ve leap-frogged the iPhone in user experience. If you look at common iPhone feature requests, the world is asking Apple to make the iPhone a bit more like other smartphones.”
Which is why I say Apple sells ecosystems. iOS offers a stronger ecosystem of apps, in part, because it’s more profitable for developers. While one might argue “features” all metrics I’ve seen show that iOS users buy more from the developers. They also use their devices on the web more. The latter is important to advertisers.
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[Walter Soyka] ” Smoke feature for ages”
One can point to many features that other products have used for some. I’ve heard that from people who’ve used some Windows NLEs saying things in FCPX previously existed. I think a factor is the size of the user base or perceived competition from the product. FCPX is probably a bigger “influencer” than Smoke. Of course the major price cut in Smoke may result in it too influencing others. Please note WHEN Adobe added hover scrubbing. Maybe it’s coincidental… maybe not.
[Walter Soyka] “What’s new about the skimmer is removing the interaction required to place footage in the viewer, not rapidly reviewing footage from a bin.”
Actually it does place the footage in the viewer. It’s just that you don’t need to click on anything to make that happen.
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[Walter Soyka] “What’s new about the skimmer is removing the interaction required to place footage in the viewer, not rapidly reviewing footage from a bin.”
[Craig Seeman] “Actually it does place the footage in the viewer. It’s just that you don’t need to click on anything to make that happen.”
That’s exactly what I said. It removes the interaction required (the click) to place footage in the viewer.
And I love skimming. One of my favorite features in FCPX.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Craig Seeman] “Which is why I say Apple sells ecosystems.”
Everyone sells ecosystems. IBM, Sun, Microsoft, Google…
[Craig Seeman] “iOS offers a stronger ecosystem of apps, in part, because it’s more profitable for developers. While one might argue “features” all metrics I’ve seen show that iOS users buy more from the developers. They also use their devices on the web more. The latter is important to advertisers.”
So the iPhone is not the product sold to us. We are the product, sold to developers and advertisers?
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Walter Soyka] “And I love skimming. One of my favorite features in FCPX.”
I wouldn’t be surprised if “direct viewing” as part of skimming makes its way into other NLEs of course.
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