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  • Steve Connor

    January 29, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    [Neil Goodman] “Just outa curiosity, where do you live? Obviuosly in LA, Avid is a huge player with a huge install base. Ive seen PPRo start to enter its way in the equation, but only two freelancers with there own bays i know use FCP X in LA at the moment.”

    The South Coast of the UK a long way from London!

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Herb Sevush

    January 29, 2013 at 8:36 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Mark my words, the editing competition will be getting more and more and more like X – just as cel phones in general have gotten more and more like iPhones. The folks in Cupertino “got it right” once again. Providing a re-think that has advanced the state of the art in general purpose editing.”

    Nothing like exuberance.

    Time will tell if the competition will be getting more and more like X – so far we’re almost 2 years in and I haven’t noticed anything to support this prediction. If anything we are seeing X get more and more like the competition – 2nd viewer, persistent ranges. Let’s see what happens first – another NLE that goes trackless, or tracks showing up in X.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 29, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Let’s see what happens first – another NLE that goes trackless, or tracks showing up in X.”

    yep. I think even as a perception matter – Apple have to address the issue of the supposed madness of the auto arrange secondary connected trackless timeline.

    they don’t have the market heft with FCPX to push the other major editing providers in their direction – there is no pressure.
    they had say pressure with FCP classic – Avid provided the magic menu to address the issue of FCP editor habits right?

    In real terms FCPX is still largely minuscule outside this forum. its got a healthy presence in this forum, and loud supporters, but that doesn’t alter the external reality for the software.

    No one else needs to conform to the seriously one off curio that is FCPX – the argument would be that FCPX needs to conform a lot more than it already has.
    if it wants to gain any kind of broad adoption.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Chris Harlan

    January 29, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    [Steve Connor] “The South Coast of the UK a long way from London!

    But thanks to the Internet you can still call it Beverly Hills, adjacent. (note: LA real estate joke.)

  • Chris Harlan

    January 29, 2013 at 9:30 pm

    [Clint Wardlow] “Yeah, we are getting hit in Utah also. It is pretty, and I enjoy a good snow storm as long as I have a warm place to retreat.

    Clint! Where are you Utah? I’ve spent a lot of time there over the years, particularly in Dixie.

  • Clint Wardlow

    January 29, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    I live in Salt Lake City, but have spent much time in other parts of the state. Love the Cedar City and St. George areas in southern utah.

  • Chris Harlan

    January 29, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    [Clint Wardlow] “I live in Salt Lake City, but have spent much time in other parts of the state. Love the Cedar City and St. George areas in southern utah.

    I like the Virgin River country quite a bit. And Cedar Breaks–what a sight! Kolob–that whole area–is beautiful.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    January 29, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    not anywhere near hastings by any chance?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Clint Wardlow

    January 29, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Those areas are beautiful. Love to camp in Kolob Canyon. Utah has such a wide range of geology. They are in Central Utah, not southern, but you should check out Capital Reef National Park and Goblin Valley. The film in Goblin Valley a lot when they need a crazy landscape that looks like another planet.

  • Bill Davis

    January 29, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    Andreas,

    Dude, the only “bubble” in play here is, IMHO the one located about 3 inches behind your eyes.

    In point of fact, The third slide in my presentation consisted of four boxes arrayed left to right roughly as follows-

    A – I use FCP-X for ALL my editing.
    B – I use FCP-X for some editing along with other NLE tools.
    C – I’m studying or interested in FCP-X but don’t use it for any paid work at this time.
    D – I’ve heard about it but never personally used FCP-X

    The purpose of the slide was to make sure I targeted the presentation to the actual understanding level and needs of that audience.

    I fully expected that most of the audience would be in C with some folks in B. I expected few in D and thought there MIGHT be one or two in A.

    To my shock, – about 20% of the crowd raised their hands for A. (20 or so out of around 100 in the crowd.)
    (when Mike H gets the meeting video posted you can see the clear shock on my face at the number of “all X editors” in the crowd if your so inclined.) BTW B and C were pretty balanced.

    I had the view from the stage but there were enough others in the crowd who post here, so I’ll let them pipe in to agree or disagree with my assessment of the poll results.

    It would be simple to “spin” the reality by simply saying that the reason that all the “Stump” questions were about AVID or Premier Pro because people can’t figure those programs out for themselves and therefore need group help – but that would be every bit as biased as what you keep trying so desperately to imply.

    You weren’t there, so I respectfully suggest you try not to describe things about which you have no direct knowledge.

    I tried to be fair in my presentation saying nothing to dismiss the choices of others.

    I think that’s the right way to advocate for a good tool.

    YMWV

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