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Is FCPX gaining any ground?
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[Michael Gissing] “Frankly Chris, one of the reasons I went CS6 is that it allows edits from many systems to be integrated and finished. So does Smoke but it is overkill for my finishing work and not available on WIN7.
I agree that editors need to be multi system skilled more so than ever before. I find the rants that one system can rule them all to be a Mordor fantasy.
“True. One of the things I’ve got going is that I have Red and Continuum on both the Avid and Pr., and it is pretty cool to flip materials between them. I have them on 7, too, but they are a version behind; I didn’t upgrade the license on that (though maybe my Pr lic. will work on it; I’ll have to see) because it is sort of time to start letting go. Or at least start to begin to let go. Or, you know, think about starting to begin to let go.
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I might conceivably have mentioned this beforehand – but it’s dead as a door nail in London. except of course for craig slattery.
two big calls for Premiere Pro were Associated Press opting for PPro as their backbone editing system deployed across all news gathering, and the BBC hedging for PPro, buying thousands of licenses for it.
Its worth noting that there is not a single story like that for FCPX – anywhere in the world. Apple couldn’t even cobble together four post houses using it for their work studies – they’ve got like two or three? and some german dude?
FCPX is fine -please everyone enjoy it and let’s all hold hands – but this forum is kind of a bubble. I thought the fact that nearly all the stump the editor questions put to bill and phillip were on PPro was *somewhat* telling.
I do think FCPX will develop a niche – and maybe grow from that – but I think the post FCP demise other shoe is finally going to start dropping this year, (it has to at some point right?) and I think it is very likely to be PPro shaped for the most part, avid otherwise. I’ve heard privately that PPro is in testing at a number of places across London – again – absolutely no one is referring to FCPX in those types of conversations. No one.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “two big calls for Premiere Pro were Associated Press opting for PPro as their backbone editing system deployed across all news gathering, and the BBC hedging for PPro, buying thousands of licenses for it.”
I’m sure the Beeb have the licenses, but I don’t know anyone at the BBC who’s actually used it and I certainly haven’t heard of anyone who has. I’m sure it’s in use, but not as widely as the number of licenses might suggest.
[Aindreas Gallagher] ” but I think the post FCP demise other shoe is finally going to start dropping this year, (it has to at some point right?) .”
I think you’re going to be surprised by the number of people that go to FCPX, I’m not saying it will be anywhere near the domination that 7 had, but you’ll be surprised.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “FCPX is fine -please everyone enjoy it and let’s all hold hands – but this forum is kind of a bubble.”
As is all of our areas of work. If you judged NLE’s by the ones that people and Companies I know use, then Avid doesn’t exist.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “absolutely no one is referring to FCPX in those types of conversations. No one.”
That’s no surprise is it, If I was a facilities manager testing it then I probably wouldn’t mention it either!
Fact is look at the tone in this “bubble” it’s changed, there is certainly more interest in FCPX amongst the sceptics than there was and there are more and more people sticking their heads above the parapet to say they use it too.
As a great man once said “the tilde is turning”
Steve Connor
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[Steve Connor] “I think you’re going to be surprised by the number of people that go to FCPX, “
given its two years later and no one is touching it or discussing it over here – bar craig slattery – I’m not sure where your future tense is steve, a lot of people utterly despise it – that won’t entertain a discussion of it even. Not to mention everyone got burned by apple killing FCP and server in the first place. that really burned a lot of houses. the idea that they are going with X – its just really really implausible.
[Steve Connor] “That’s no surprise is it, If I was a facilities manager testing it then I probably wouldn’t mention it either!”
I’ve spoken to a few steve some at some pretty big places – I know what they’re testing, and its not X – in one case it was initially, they were even coding custom software to support deployment and cover deficiencies, but then they basically kind of gave that up. They’re drafting more Avid in, and they are currently testing premiere.that place has a *lot* of seats, and they were the only one I ever heard of even testing FCPX – no one else is going near it.
[Steve Connor] “Fact is look at the tone in this “bubble” it’s changed,”
that’s just because we’re being nicer to you. we had a meeting about it. seemed like the right decision. no need to beat you over the head all the time.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Chris,
We are alive in Idaho. The snow sucks at first but it she does lend itself to pretty video.Mike Jeffs
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[Aindreas Gallagher] ” think it is very likely to be PPro shaped for the most part, avid otherwise. “
I’ve decided that I’m not going to be primarily on one platform anymore. That’s the way it used to be, before FCP took hold of me. I’d move between many different NLEs with ease. Of course, there were many less keyboard shortcuts to learn, and really only so many options, because what I was actually doing, in all cases, was building an EDL. Then, for a period of more years than I should have allowed, FCP answered all my needs. I’ve found the last two years invigorating, though I’m sure I could have been happily invigorated by something other than NLE “revolution.” [In ironic quotes, in case someone somehow misses that.]
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for my part I’e been shifting to being a proper attempt at a mograph video editor combo lately – I started out in motion graphics originally, its been good getting full bore back into AE again – also might explain my slight, slight PPro preference.
If PPro takes hold across my area it so, so suits me a treat.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Yeah, we are getting hit in Utah also. It is pretty, and I enjoy a good snow storm as long as I have a warm place to retreat.
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I’ve been lurking here for years, but have just decided to join..
From what I’ve seen, X has a future, not sure how bright, but it has a future.. There are a lot of things going on at BVE next month which feature it.
Myself, I’d like to use it for film editing, once I’ve got the hang of it.
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[Steve Connor] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “FCPX is fine -please everyone enjoy it and let’s all hold hands – but this forum is kind of a bubble.”
As is all of our areas of work. If you judged NLE’s by the ones that people and Companies I know use, then Avid doesn’t exist.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “absolutely no one is referring to FCPX in those types of conversations. No one.”
“Just outa curiosity, where do you live? Obviuosly in LA, Avid is a huge player with a huge install base. Ive seen PPRo start to enter its way in the equation, but only two freelancers with there own bays i know use FCP X in LA at the moment.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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