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Is anyone rendering 23.976 footage transcoded or rewrapped with FCPX out of Color? Xto7 7toX
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[Shane Ross] “The biggest kick I get out of this conversation is how much you all still rely on FCS to do stuff. You don’t just use FCX.”
I think you need to view it differently. FCP X at the moment is an editing platform that other things can work with. It’s not an all-in-one application and in this go-around, I don’t believe Apple intends to do that any longer. FCP X is a good cutting environment for those who adapt to its style, but for advanced workflows you’ve got to go outside of it. That can be Resolve or Smoke or other apps – or it can be what you already own – FCS.
– Oliver
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[Oliver Peters] ” FCP X is a good cutting environment for those who adapt to its style,”
I know…like Bill Davis. It’s you two, that work like I work, have needs like my needs…that can’t seem to stick to only FCX.
Shane
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[Shane Ross] “It’s you two, that work like I work, have needs like my needs…that can’t seem to stick to only FCX.”
Well, for me, there are parts of X I like and parts I still hate. Since I freelance, I currently am asked to use most of the various NLEs. When it comes to sending stuff out-of-house for mixes or grading, there are a number of ways to make it work if you cut in X. Often the easiest is to get it to/from FCP 7 and then go from there. The last couple of jobs I’ve cut were conformed/”onlined” in FCP 7 😉
– Oliver
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I just finished a project FCP7 to color, 23.98 prores HQ recorder on a Samurai and all of my render files round tripped from color came back 24fps…
Opened new project in color and just imported single clip from
Samurai recorded files and color sees it as 24fps, Quicktime sees it as 23.98.Exported same clip from FCP same as source a Color sees it as 23.98.
What is going on ????
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[David Camacho] “What is going on ????”
Color hates samurai. It likes ninjas.
Shane
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Did you touch fcpx at all?
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I just ran some tests. I think it’s your day for voodoo, Jeremy. I imported 3 files directly into Color (Alexa, BMCC ProResHQ, F3 recorded on KiPro). All 1080p/23.98. I rendered in Color, imported rendered clips into FCP 7 and then exported to X via XML (7toX). In all cases (plus QT 7) the files and sequences were ID’ed as 23.98fps. Go figure.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Shane Ross] ” It’s you two, that work like I work, have needs like my needs…that can’t seem to stick to only FCX.”
Did you stick with only fcp7?
I didn’t.
With X, X2Pro worked great for me to get AAFs to ProTools.
If I had a Blackmagic card, the round trip to resolve would have been fairly painless.
Even needing to go to an XML based system (FCS 3 or Pr) is OK for timeline work.
Avid? I haven’t tried getting to it, but I imagine some combo of Xto7toX and Automatic Duck.
If a person likes fcpx (which I like a lot of it) the interchange really isn’t 100% terrible or impossible.
I find interchange in cs6 to be more difficult (not including dynamic link to Ae).
Jeremy
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As I said, all clips NOT transcoded with X worked fine.
Arri Alexa, log and transferred clips from fcp7, etc.
It was clips that were transcoded or wrapped in X that are the problem.
Try something like P2, AVCHD, or XDCam/C300 media.
I can try and send you some tomorrow if you don’t have any on hand.
If it is voodoo on my system, at least I can chase it.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “As I said, all clips NOT transcoded with X worked fine. “
OK, so we are back to what I said in the first place. It’s an FCP X bug, not a Color problem. Or it’s in Xto7. The issue is likely a mis-tagging of frame rate metadata. At various points Apple has frequently mislabeled 23.98 as 24 (but meaning 23.98). It could be there’s an error in the XML translation due to that. Also there are metadata differences between how Apple writes the tags for its 23.98 and how others write 23.976.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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