Interesting email

[Charlie Austin]

[Erik Lindahl] “Yes, this is exactly what I’d want. “Collected Tracks” or “Role Collections”.”

This is exactly what Logic X has done with “Track Stacks”. I’d be surprised if The X folks weren’t looking at this type of thing. Whether it shows up in the next version or not, something like it is hopefully on their radar. God knows they’ve had enough requests for a feature like that. 🙂

EDIT: The only “problem” with any Role visual grouping in a timeline, is how to deal with multichannel clips with multiple Roles, and/or Roles that are components of Video clips in a storyline. It’s doable, but I don’t thinks it’s gonna be easy to have not have it end up as some big kludge. That may be why we haven’t seen it yet…

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Erik Lindahl]

Doesn’t the HUD render to file if you don’t remove it with some plug-ins? And doesn’t the HUD show on your video-output? That’s kind of a flawed design don’t you think?

Well designed GUI’s rarely need to resort to a HUD that doesn really fit anywhere. What could be good is if FCP supported a HUD on the computer display where the video out was the video-render only. That could indeed be flexible.

[Charlie Austin]

[Erik Lindahl] “Doesn’t the HUD render to file if you don’t remove it with some plug-ins? And doesn’t the HUD show on your video-output? That’s kind of a flawed design don’t you think?”

No idea, I’ve not seen that. We may be talking about 2 different things. There’s the viewer overlay type, like slice X, and the floating window type, as seen all over Motion and in X for things like Keywords, BG tasks, some plugin controls, etc.

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Erik Lindahl]

Overlays in the viewer is what I was talking about.

A floating window or HUD is IMO in general a poor GUI-design. Sometime it can be useful but for I’d say as overlay info / toggles.

[Charlie Austin]

[Erik Lindahl] “Overlays in the viewer is what I was talking about. “

Got it… FWIW, I’ve never used a plug in whose HUD had rendered to video. If I saw that I’d say it was broken, or horribly designed. 🙂

[Erik Lindahl] “A floating window or HUD is IMO in general a poor GUI-design.”

I agree when they’re poorly implemented. The way they work in Motion is quite nice though IMO…

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Bill Davis]

Just for gods sake do it a chunk better than Motion does keyframes.

Opening a smaller window with some virtual role/tracks with tiny clickables would drive me crazy.

Remember, higher “retina” displays give the designers the ability to do small interface elements, which work great when you have bunches of screen real-estate – but when you want to work on the same project on a 15″ laptop – those small but crystal clear UI objects drive anyone not possessing “eagle eyes” totally nuts.

I love motion, but every time I open the keyframe display and have to spend much time trying to click and drag the hundred little keyframe targets – or when I try to do keyframing inside the storyline keyframe disclosure window – I find myself “sighing” a lot.

Oh well.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “or when I try to do keyframing inside the storyline keyframe disclosure window – I find myself “sighing” a lot.”

Wait… did you just say something critical of FCPX? :-0 I kinda like the keyframe pop up window thingy, though it could certainly be enhanced. Maybe if you could just let go of the old way of doing it you’d get it! 😉

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Bill Davis]

[Charlie Austin] “Wait… did you just say something critical of FCPX? :-0 I kinda like the keyframe pop up window thingy, though it could certainly be enhanced. Maybe if you could just let go of the old way of doing it you’d get it! 😉
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Weird, I was doing a working Saturday inside, while Arizona is AMAZING outside today – building the X database for the Rocky Mountain Emmy Awards live event show reel – and I find virtual snark juice all over my screen?

Gotta be careful not to screw up any of the 120 submission video clips (in half a dozen different formats from Flash to Unwrapped MPEG and all manner of raster sizes!)

Cuz that would be bad.

Note to the TV stations of the western US… Flash? Really?

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[Bill Davis]

So who’s goinna print up the…

“FCP-X – We don’t need no stinkin’ tracks”

T-shirts for NAB next year?

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “So who’s goinna print up the…

“FCP-X – We don’t need no stinkin’ tracks”

T-shirts for NAB next year?”

LOL… I recommend customink.com 🙂

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~