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  • Interesting Blog comparing FCP to Avid (from a feature film editor who cuts primarily long form)

  • Michael Buday

    July 26, 2006 at 8:39 pm

    Thought others might be interested in this. Of course, there have been countless comparisons beteeen FCP and Avid, but this one focuses on the perspective of someone immersed in long-form editing – mostly feature films. While I don’t agree with everything here, it’s a very interesting read.

    Michael Buday

  • Michael Buday

    July 26, 2006 at 8:41 pm

    https://splicehere.wordpress.com/

    Forgot this important tidbit.

    Michael Buday

  • Misha Aranyshev

    July 26, 2006 at 9:40 pm

    The author is too early into learning FCP to make any viable comparisons.

  • Peter Wiggins

    July 26, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    Couldn’t agree more

    This guy should do the comparison after he has read the manual.

    I was tempted to pull it apart piece by piece, but anybody reading it would understand after reading this:-

    “The Avid is more fluid because there

  • Chi-Ho Lee

    July 26, 2006 at 11:06 pm

    This is often the case for long time avid editors who spend a short time on Final Cut. They couldn’t figure out a way to do it “just like the avid” and they assume it’s not possible. But I don’t think you can really blame them, FCP has tons of shortcut keys and some of them are even listed in the menu or keyboard or button list.

    The one “complaint” I hear and read over and over again is that FCP can not edit one sequence into another without nesting. And I don’t think it could back in the earlier versions but it’s possible since a couple versions ago I believe – CMD F9 or CMD F10 will insert or overwrite a sequence that is loaded in the viewer with discrete clips without nesting.

    I think there needs to be a world wide FCP Q&A session for avid editors. Perhaps next NAB.

    I like to think it’s not bias, just misinformation.

    -CHL

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer

  • Ron James

    July 26, 2006 at 11:49 pm

    [Peter Wiggins] “most editing takes place by moving things around in the timeline. It requires heavy use of a tool palette.”

    That’s hilarious. I haven’t used the tool palette in years. I’d love to sit down and train this guy how to really use FCP.

  • Steven Gonzales

    July 27, 2006 at 2:28 pm

    I think to do a comparison of Avid and FCP for Feature Films would require a point/counterpoint by an expert in each system.

    I’ve recently seen a quote in an Avid press release by an editor friend of mine, saying that Avid is much more stable than Final Cut.

    This was the same editor that that I rescued when he lost all his audio temporarily on an Avid Media Composer project because he rebuilt his media database — while his project was open!

    For anyone interested in Feature Films and Final Cut, I recommend the October 2005 LAFCPUG DVD featuring Walter Murch and Sean Cullen talking about editing Jarhead. https://www.intelligentassistance.com/shop/lafcpug.html

    The now slightly dated “Behind the Seen: How Walter Murch Edited Cold Mountain Using Apple’s Final Cut Pro and What This Means for Cinema” is also illuminating.

  • John Davidson

    July 28, 2006 at 10:32 am

    This blog really points out how uninformed so many of us who migrate from Avid are. In my case, when I didn’t know how to do something I could do in Avid, I develop workarounds to make air. Later, I learned the right way, but even now I feel like an idiot when I learn a new feature and have to unlearn my hack method.

    How great would it be to see a few Aaron Rabinowitz style tutorials (from the AE room) showing how to overcome the FCP issues the author of that comparison pointed out? Perhaps something like an “Uncle Walter’s Trimming Tricks for FCP” tutorial?

    Not that Walter isn’t busy enough :-).

    John Davidson____ writer | producer | director____https://www.magicfeatherinc.com

  • Zach Cobb

    July 28, 2006 at 8:16 pm

    I notice no one here pointed out this guy was mostly complimentary about FCP and stated, in the end, “The winner, for me, remains the Media Composer, primarily, at this point, because of its trimming controls.” … “Final Cut does some things better than the Media Composer these days and those improvements, especially the ability to do really slick titles in Motion and sophisticated sound work in Soundtrack Pro, make it more and more interesting.”

    He was stating his personal preference and why. He NEVER slammed FCP.

  • Donato M. Rondinelli

    July 28, 2006 at 9:08 pm

    FCP/Avid stability
    In the last 4 years I’ve had a Symphony PC, Adrenaline PC (still do) & 3 FCP Macs. The Macs need to be restarted more often, but it’s usually just a restart, nothing else. When the Avids crash, they crash hard. If my FCP is down I can fix it myself. If you have an Avid, you need their Assurance plan. Half of all my problems needed a call to tech support. $2500/yr for Adrenaline & $3500/ for Symphony. You don’t want a year of support, no problem. You can always pay per incident…$500 charge to your credit card!
    My Symphony was as solid as my FCPs. My Adrenaline is less stable than the FCPs.
    -dMR

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