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Interesting announcement from Black Magic
Walter Soyka replied 14 years, 6 months ago 15 Members · 72 Replies
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Chris Harlan
November 17, 2011 at 7:36 pmMXF is a wrapper, not a CODEC. You can easily write DNX in a QT wrapper, as well.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 17, 2011 at 7:36 pm[Daniel Frome] “Avid’s preferred codec is DNxHD. Avid’s wrapper is MXF. “
I’m aware and know the difference. It’s still an issue.
[Daniel Frome] “So… what you’re pointing out is really a file wrapper issue more than a ‘format’ issue if you get me… totally valid nonetheless.”
I get it, but not everyone will. MXF on a Mac is not easy or cheap. Avid could make that easier of they want to be “open” is all I’m saying.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 17, 2011 at 7:38 pm[Michael Hancock] “You don’t send an MXF. “
What if I’m the recipient and I receive an MXF?
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Jeremy Garchow
November 17, 2011 at 7:40 pm[Chris Harlan] “MXF is a wrapper, not a CODEC. You can easily write DNX in a QT wrapper, as well.
“Guys, I am fully and completely aware of this difference.
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Michael Hancock
November 17, 2011 at 7:43 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “What if I’m the recipient and I receive an MXF?”
Three options.
1) Call them and tell them to send a Quicktime.
2) Download the Avid trial, export a Quicktime.
3) Buy Avid. It’s cheap.
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Shane Ross
November 17, 2011 at 7:44 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “What if I’m the recipient and I receive an MXF?”
Then ask the client for a QT DNxHD. Or get Avid Media Composer…so that you can deal with those clients. But the simplest thing to do is ask for a DNxHD QT file.
[Jeremy Garchow] “I get it, but not everyone will. MXF on a Mac is not easy or cheap. Avid could make that easier of they want to be “open” is all I’m saying.”
You don’t open the MXF files directly. (To be fair, you don’t do this on a PC either, do you? Open the MXF files directly? If so…what do you use?) If you get Avid MXF files…then you need to get Media Composer, and then you can export them to fit your needs (MC is now cheap..as I said). Or you can ask that the client supply you with DNxHD Quicktimes.
Seems to me that you just want to refuse to get Media Composer, even if it means being able to fulfill the needs of your clients better. Or, you don’t want to ask them to send QT files.
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Daniel Frome
November 17, 2011 at 7:44 pmI would honestly call it a small inconvenience, not an issue.
I’ll admit that the idea that my “avid files” are not directly readable by quicktime weirded me out when switching from FCP. But… it actually hasn’t been an issue to this point.
Just realize that the MXF wrapped files are never, ever, handed off unless you are strictly handling avid-to-avid stuff. Otherwise it’s taken for granted that you want a DNxHD quicktime. I think you’re forcing the perspective a bit too much here..noone says “give me that MXF!”
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Daniel Frome
November 17, 2011 at 7:47 pmOh…and if they ever DID say “give me that MXF!” I would gladly welcome them to search the schmorgasboard of my Avid Mediafiles/MXF folder! hah…good luck finding it! ;P
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Michael Hancock
November 17, 2011 at 7:48 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I get it, but not everyone will. MXF on a Mac is not easy or cheap. Avid could make that easier of they want to be “open” is all I’m saying.”
Who cares if if’s not easy or cheap? In another thread you said if someone needed to encode to ProRes on Windows they could buy Episode Engine for $4,000. I quote, “I’m just saying, if you need it, it’s there.”
See here: https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/20368
So if you need read an Avid MXF, buy Avid. If you need it, it’s there and it’s a whole lot cheaper than ProRes encoding on Windows. Bit of a double standard to expect Avid to be more “open” regarding MXF but it’s cool to limit ProRes encoding to Mac.
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Shane Ross
November 17, 2011 at 7:54 pm[Michael Hancock] “So if you need read an Avid MXF, buy Avid. If you need it, it’s there and it’s a whole lot cheaper than ProRes encoding on Windows. Bit of a double standard to expect Avid to be more “open” regarding MXF but it’s cool to limit ProRes encoding to Mac.”
HEAR HEAR!
Shane
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