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  • Insert clip without losing sync

    Posted by Brianlaz on November 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    I’m embarrassed to ask this question, because it seems like it should be easy to figure out, and because I’ve been editing on FCPX for long enough that it seems crazy I don’t know it. But I looked pretty hard.

    I’d like to make what I would call a true insert edit: EVERYTHING to the right of the new clip moves over to make room for the new clip, i.e. I don’t lose any sync. In X it seems to depend on what is connected to what where, and there’s always something that doesn’t move over, causing me to lose sync, or just making me paranoid. Is this possible?

    Thanks in advance.

    Bret Williams replied 7 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Robin S. kurz

    November 17, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Are you sure that you have the regular SELECT TOOL active (A-key)?

    Otherwise seeing a screenshot of both the before and after would be a huge help in understanding what’s going on.

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  • Jeff Kirkland

    November 17, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    The only time everything’s not going to move the way you want is if the connected clip’s actual connection is downstream of the clip you’re inserting, in which case it will stay with it’s parent and everything else will move down to make room for the inserted clip. The only way I can think of that not happening is if you were accidentally in something like position mode which overrides the normal magnetic timeline.

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  • Brianlaz

    November 17, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    Thank you for your response, I will upload a pic (or video if possible).

    I am definitely in the regular select tool mode (A)

  • Brianlaz

    November 18, 2018 at 12:12 am

    Ok here is an example, some tracks on top of each other, a few tracks of video and a few tracks of audio (I think I’m not supposed to call them “tracks”?)

    https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at7.08.51pm.png

    When I take the blade tool and cut every “track”, then insert (W) I get what I want:

    https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at6.58.15pm.png

    Obviously having to cut each track individually is not tenable.

    When I don’t cut every track with the blade tool I get this:

    https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at6.59.34pm.png

    I adjusted where the tracks were connected to the primary storyline (another thing there’s no way I’m willing to do every time), this does not produce the desired result.

    Does this help? Is there a way to insert a clip and have everything get cut at that point and move over?

  • Brianlaz

    November 18, 2018 at 12:14 am

    Crap, in preview I could see my images, now that I have posted I don’t see them.
    Is there a forum for how to post on the forum??
    I followed CC’s instructions (I thought) for how to include a still.

  • Brianlaz

    November 18, 2018 at 12:17 am

    Thanks for your reply.
    Are you saying in order to do what I would call a true insert, where everything after your insert point moves to the right, I have to go to every clip and adjust it’s connection point? This could take a full minute on a complicated project.
    Also, I tried moving all connection points to after the insert point and it was still wonky.
    Am I misunderstanding?

  • Robin S. kurz

    November 18, 2018 at 11:54 am

    [brianlaz] “Crap, in preview I could see my images, now that I have posted I don’t see them.”

    I suspect you inserted the LINK not the EMBED code. Maybe give it another shot. They’re still there. ????

    But I suspect that what Jeff wrote is probably going in the right direction, yes.

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  • Bret Williams

    November 18, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    Inserting works very much like other NLEs. With some differences, good and bad. In FCPX when you insert, all the clips connected past the insert point will ripple down as you like . Any clips connected before the insertion point will stay where they are. Worked the same in FCP7. If you inserted to a layer, every clip on all (non-locked) layers rippled down unless their in point was before the ineserted clip. In either case, the app can’t know what you want to do. There is always some clean up. In FCPX, at least you have the opportunity to change the connection point to where it moves with the clip you always want it to move with, as might be the case if you’re inserting at a J or L cut point. The big problem with 7 or X is music. If your music is connected before the insert point, then everything after the insert is going to be out of sync with the music. But this is generally true of all NLEs. X, at least, has the ability to change the connection point so you can choose side of the edit is important or which side you’d prefer goo out of sync.

    Avid has what is called sync locks. Turn those on and every frame is important. You can’t knock anything out t of sync. If you do an insert, it will split all the tracks at the insert point and push everything down. It’s a very safe way to work and how I always worked when I worked on Avid many, many, many years ago. I assume they still have that great feature. In FCPX, you can accomplish the same thing by choosing a single hot key combination right before you insert edit. Shift+cmd+B. That will split your timeline all the way through at the playhead. Hit insert after that and all will be perfectly in sync before and after your insert.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 18, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    [brianlaz] “Does this help? Is there a way to insert a clip and have everything get cut at that point and move over?

    First, the images in your post are now fixed. in the future, simply drag and drop your pictures to the post window and the cow will make automatic links.

    Second, map a key to “Blade”. I use ‘b’. Lasso the clips you want to blade, place your playhead here you need to blade, then hit blade. This will cut all the selected clips, but nothing else. Alternatively, you can hit the “blade all” command (I have it mapped to command-b). This will cut all clips under the playhead.

    Then hit w to insert.

    Once you get the hang of it, it’s very fast.

  • Brianlaz

    November 18, 2018 at 3:58 pm

    Thanks for your reply!

    [Bret Williams] “In FCPX when you insert, all the clips connected past the insert point will ripple down as you like . Any clips connected before the insertion point will stay where they are. Worked the same in FCP7. “

    I can’t say I agree with this…connection points happen automatically, whereas locking tracks is something the editor does. I almost never used it in 7 because that’s how losing sync was invited. So the default setup for me was that inserting something rippled ALL tracks, because not losing sync is–for me–a great default. It’s actually hard for me to think of a scenario where it’s desirable to insert any other way, where some tracks ripple and some don’t.

    [Bret Williams] “The big problem with 7 or X is music. If your music is connected before the insert point, then everything after the insert is going to be out of sync with the music. But this is generally true of all NLEs. X, at least, has the ability to change the connection point so you can choose side of the edit is important or which side you’d prefer goo out of sync. “

    Again, since in 7 inserting worked the way I like (all tracks ripple), I never found there to be a problem with losing sync with music. And holding down keys and clicking with a mouse on literally every track before I do an edit…crazy town. I can appreciate how connection points can be useful in other ways though I’m sure.

    [Bret Williams] ” In FCPX, you can accomplish the same thing by choosing a single hot key combination right before you insert edit. Shift+cmd+B. That will split your timeline all the way through at the playhead. Hit insert after that and all will be perfectly in sync before and after your insert.”

    This is money right here! It is a good, though imo clunky, solution that is basically what I was saying I do as a workaround (split each track) but you added the shift combo so I don’t have to split each track individually.
    Thanks for that!
    I know there’s a FCPX vs 7 debates forum so I will say no more!

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