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iMovie (2013) is an unreleased version of Final Cut Pro X with a consumer UI
David Lawrence replied 12 years, 10 months ago 12 Members · 67 Replies
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Marcus Moore
November 6, 2013 at 8:28 pmWhile iMovie ’09 debuted this interface, look at it today and it’s a VERY stripped down version of the basic concept. iMovie 11 is much closer, but at that point FCPX had already been released.
Simply the amount of time between FCP7’s release in 2009 and FCPX illustrates the extended development process it went thru. Carbon to Cocoa, 64bit (which it just missed the boat on, since Logic made to 64bit before the 64bit Carbon initiative was killed), AVFoundation (which iMovie for Mac hadn’t moved to until the new one released just last month).
I just can’t reconcile all of this background legwork with the idea that they STARTED with a consumer concept and scaled it up to FCPX, vs they started with a new way of editing, and the consumer version just got out the door first.
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Simon Ubsdell
November 6, 2013 at 8:35 pm[Marcus Moore] “Carbon to Cocoa, 64bit (which it just missed the boat on, since Logic made to 64bit before the 64bit Carbon initiative was killed), AVFoundation (which iMovie for Mac hadn’t moved to until the new one released just last month).”
I can’t speak about AV Foundation and I’m not sure a lot of us can, but it’s certainly the case that a transition to 64 bit is an exceedingly trivial issue in the scheme of things.
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Simon Ubsdell
November 6, 2013 at 8:36 pm[Andy Branner] “:-))))”
This part I’m afraid you’re going to have to explain to me.
While you’re still hunting up that section of the FCP X manual that you talk so highly of.
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Jeremy Garchow
November 6, 2013 at 8:50 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Or, the inverse is true, and FCP X really is iMovie after all. :)”
No, no.
FCP X is FCP X, and iMovie is iMovie Pro!
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Marcus Moore
November 6, 2013 at 8:52 pmIf they didn’t have some stuff right, I hope I’d have had the common sense to move on at this point.
As it is, logging (definitely) and cutting (mostly) are improvements in my mind.
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David Roth weiss
November 6, 2013 at 8:52 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “FCP X is FCP X, and iMovie is iMovie Pro!”
Who really cares? More important is that Premiere Creative Cloud is FCP 8. 🙂
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Rick Lang
November 6, 2013 at 8:53 pm[Marcus Moore] “I’d go cross-eyed trying to look for this stuff…”
Same here. For a simpler hint at the inner workings from 10,000 feet, I looked at the Mac App Store size of the two current apps and it is interesting, although not exactly comparing apples to apples since we don’t know the size of FCP X 10.1 yet:
iMovie v10.0 1.94 GB updated October 22, 2013
FCP X v10.0.9 1.64 GB as of July 30, 2013
Rick Lang
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Jeremy Garchow
November 6, 2013 at 8:55 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Who really cares? More important is that Premiere Creative Cloud is FCP 8. :)”
Yes!
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Charlie Austin
November 6, 2013 at 8:57 pm[Andy Branner] “Thinking that they started on iMovie, saw that it worked so they just slapped a few more features and a Pro moniker on it, defies any and all logic if you look at the facts.”
It’s pretty well established that “First Cut” became iMovie 09, and eventually FCP X. And I’m sure they probably were working on X at the same time, but the iMovie version, which could (or already had as First Cut?) take code from earlier versions and wrap the new UI ideas around, was finished first.
Chicken? Egg? Both delicious if properly cooked… 🙂
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Marcus Moore
November 6, 2013 at 8:58 pmIf PP is now FCP8- where’s the new PremierPro?!
And Avid is still Avid. How boring! 😉
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