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if I shot in 24p, what should the capture settings be when capturing?…
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Emma,
There is nothing I would LOVE more than to shoot and edit at 25! I wish we can all shoot and edit at 24P actually!
-CHL
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[Plunder Hallow] “what you all really need to do is move to Europe and shoot 25p, it’s easy as pie, think about it, no more shooting/crossencoding/pulling/yanking/downconvert/upconvert/re-res/split-concat at 24.98723 fps, or whatever it is.”
LOL Emma
you tell’em Peace At Last — there is a reason for that moniker in PAL land….
gary adcock
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[Dave LaRonde] “It’s amazing what kind of crap people will accept; you simply have to feed them that crap for a long enough time”
Sorry dave
really disagree with you here, while what you said was basically correct ( PAL is 25/50 due to the power differences outside the US’s nonsensical 60hrz world and frame rates in both environments result from the raw power not any other choices)
But this last one is pretty lame IMHO, so you like 60 great, but to beat up on 24 is about as lame as taking on PAL ( which has a 4-6x larger user base than NTSC even though there are fewer TV’s outside on NA and japan the “NTSC” countries.)
I do not disagree that 60 looks better on a small TV set, but watching 60, 72 or 90 fps content in a theater is almost unnerving. That hyper-real is used in simulators and I can assure you that on a big screen ( think Imax) that nausea is
is all you can think about just after you start watching and right after you get out as your body re-adjusts.I am a fan of 24 fps content and always will be. I like the look and feel, I understand NDF and the other related issues and the cadence of telecine ( television from cinema) is comfortable for me.
You “TV Guys” (poking in fun here) are why we still have interlaced broadcast rather that true progressive for HD broadcast.
gary adcock
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Dave,
I see where you’re coming from but I gotta agree with Gary on this one. But alas, I’ve also been conditioned to wear clothes in front of people, chew with my mouth shut, and not fart in front of other people.
CHL
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I was trying to inject a bit of humor here. But it prob came off as sarcasm instead. My bad.
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I may be conditioned to 24fps. But when you watch a film in the theater, do you really see a flawed image and wish it’s in 30fps?
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See, just come round to my way of thinking and the world becomes a brighter place. And what’s up with the NTSC 720 x 480!!! I mean come on push the boat out and pick up a hundred more lines already!
:o)
Emma.
(as an interesting side note I recall some guy from Fuji Film quoted in the Guerrilla Film Makers hand book saying film makers should shoot at 25fps, just stoking the flames)
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I believe that for decades many projectors actually have used a double shuttering at 48hz and show each frame twice, so though we’re not seeing 48 discrete images, we are seeing 48 projected images per second.
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do the link…I have a few words for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ZUMmaioMw
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[Dave LaRonde] “You see? The film makers have desensitized you: after decades of 24fps film, you’ve become inured that 24fps is the right way; you can no longer accept substitues.”
TOTALLY WRONG!!!!.
I do not want to watch everything as 60fps- I live my life in a hyper-real state and I do not wish to watch something to escape in that reality.
Why don’t you admit that all playing all of those video games has botched your sense of what is real and what is not. SOCOM et al are not artistic endeavors, why would people not want to be released from the bounds of a hectic life and be captured in an escape.
keep your 60FPS on the news and in sports dave, and let drama be something else.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
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