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I think I’m done
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[Scott Sheriff] “Not just the young employees, that can’t bother to show up for work, but the young customers that routinely damage equipment, can’t return it on time, and then have a cavalier attitude because it doesn’t belong to them, and “that’s what insurance is for”.”
Tell me about it. I had an employee that took some gear to a personal shoot and broke a monopod. He showed it to me and when I asked him how he was going to take care of it, he said “Well, at rental houses, you just throw it on the floor and they take care of it.” The nerve!
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
2-Sony EX-1 HD .Ask me how to Market Yourself using Send Out Cards
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“I know there folks out there that are going to completely disagree with this, but some day they will be the one writing the checks, and then the light bulb will go on.”
Actually, in my opinion, if they disagree they probably won’t get to the point where they’re writing check.
It’s sort of a double edge sword though. On one hand, the others in their 20s make it hard on me because I’m only 23 and will probably be judged by my age. On the other hand, if I do get an interview, I look that much better because I’m not dumb enough to show up late wearing shorts while I refer to the employer as “dude.” LOL, I don’t care how much butt wiping mommy did. Who actually thinks that’s a good idea?
Rob Grauert, Jr.
http://www.robgrauert.com
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In regards to 20-somethings seeming “cocky”, thinking that knowing all the programs means endless jobs, of course, they’ll find out they are among hundreds of thousands who think the same..
unfortunately, simply walking into a production/post house and “paying your dues” as was the case back in the day is not the case anymore… not only do you have to know it all, you have to be a top notch human, work for free, live on ramen, etc etc.
I’m personally envious of the old industry.. I cant think of a single person who is getting an “apprenticeship” right now.. they dont exists! Hell, the KIDS already KNOW most of it!
You have to admit, 20s are coming into the most competitive time in history.
Sure, in an industry where 50% of high school grads seem to be getting into the video industry, there is bound to be TONS of bad apples.. please.. do not work with them.. find the kids who will die to work in this industry. There are bound to be a few.
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Great point about the apprenticeship vacuum. With the disappearance of so many studios, there are fewer opportunities to start with a broom and work your way into the editing room.
[Rick Turners] “find the kids who will die to work in this industry. There are bound to be a few.”
Absolutely true. I know two of them, one in NYC, the other in LA. If you need to hire a great young person, contact me. bob-rcole-com.
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A long, long time ago, I was partially responsible for bringing a high school intern along. This was more an exception than the norm, we usually had college students.
Anyway, this kid was bright, talented, and focused. He knew more about graphics than I did the day he started, he could shoot, he was willing to do grunt work like schlepping gear through marshes and forests, and he was a nice enough guy that he was great to work with.
He left us after a couple intern years to go off to college, did well there, and did even better after. Kept in touch with him off and on, including recently on his blog.
(I’m also no longer with that employer, I went independent a while ago.)
Now, I’m very pleased to say that I knew Stu Maschwitz way back when.
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One of the freelance shooters I sometimes use had Steven Soderberg as an intern. Apparently he made pretty good coffee!
Mike Cohen
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I must say this thread has been very enlightening for me. When I started in the industry five years ago as a 20 something I really had no idea what I was in for. I graduated college and didn’t realize I had the attitude of “my stuff doesn’t stink” until I got my first job in TV two years later. It was only then I realized how much I didn’t know and that my degree was merely a license to learn. It became even more apparent when I was hired at the beginning of fourth quarter. I had never touched an Avid or even Photoshop. I had to learn a lot quick and wasn’t even sure I was going to last. It was scary because I loved what I did (creative services) and couldn’t imagine doing anything else.
Before this job I had spent my entire working career waiting tables, cooking pizza or sacking groceries and I knew I didn’t want to go back to that. I was lucky enough to have someone with experience take me under his wing and show me how the industry works and what to do in order to survive.
I learned in not any particular order;
1. Attitudes get you nowhere.
2. Learn something new everyday.
3. Show up.
4. When you think you know it all, you’re in trouble.
5. There are a lot of people that know a lot more than you.
6. If you don’t know how to do something, ask.
7. Making videos, graphics and such is a cool job but it is still a job that needs to be done in a timely manner.
8. MEET DEADLINES!That first job was a huge peice of humble pie and I can still taste it even today. That taste keeps me grounded to the fact that I’m very lucky to be working in this industry at all and someone was nice enough to teach me the ropes.
So with that in mind please don’t give up on all of us younger folks! Some of us really do want to contribute to the industry and learn from the people that have been in it for a while. That can only make all of us, newbie or experienced pro better in the long run.
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lol
“damn whippersnappers, Get off my lawn!”I hear your frustration, man. The folks you are griping about are the ones that justify our rates though. I love the weed smoking FCP in the basement dudes of the world. They are who I bid against today, not high end ad agencies and production facilities. The 80s are gone. I don’t mind. I’m as embarrassed about my old mullets and parachute pants as I am my first demo reel. We’ve grown, the damn whippersnappers your mad about won’t do that for 20 more years.
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How about us older, experienced people??? We’re outta work, we’re dependable, experienced and very great-full to get the work right now. And there’s plenty of us!
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Hi
great thread
no matter how smart a person thinks they are, or what they think they know, they need to remember one thing:
“Be nice to everyone on the way up, cuz you’ll see em again on the way down!”
hope this helps
“I like video because its so fast!”
Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.
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