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I recommend everyone watch the entire SuperMeet “sneak”
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[Sohrab Sandhu] “1. Price has gone down to $ 299. So effectively the worth of each license has gone down & application has become more dispensible to apple’s plans.”
Remember all those people saying “the top of the range dodecacore Mac Pro is really cool, but I don’t have anything that will use all that power”? Now they do. Apple’s going to sell truckloads of those towers. All to run a $300 app. -
David I too found watching the whole presentation much more enlightening and am looking forward to trying X out. On the whole I am much less worried than I was 24 hours ago.
I can, though, never get over the crowds reaction to every little new thing that is demoed. All the ooohs and the aaahs are just a bit too much for me when I am eating my lunch at the same time and the standing ovation when the price was mentioned was enough to make me choke on my apple. . .ahem!
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Yes FCP is $299. Previously the entire suite (FCP, DVDSP, Motion, Soundtrack, Compressor, Color) was $1000. 6 applications for $1000 versus 1 for $300. Simple division; the price has gone up!
Scott Davis
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[Sohrab Sandhu]1.Price has gone down to $ 299. So effectively the worth of each license has gone down & application has become more dispensible to apple’s plans.
This makes absolutely no difference for current FCP users, unless you’re afraid of more competition. For Apple it means more users which will translate into more developments for us current users.
[Sohrab Sandhu] 2. This was touted to be a ground breaking application. It is not. Apple has simply caught up with Adobe & Avid. This is normally not their style. They are always 2 steps ahead of their competitors with every new invention.
It was a sneak peek. You don’t know all yet. Besides just based on what was already shown how can you say they are just playing catch up? On the 64bit front sure. But does Premiere have power windows withing the application? Does even Media Composer? Do PP CS5 or MC5.5 offer any of the new timeline features that FCP X does? That alone will speed up editing in a huge way. There are several new and innovative features that they don’t offer either. When you think it’s all for $299 makes me think if Avid or Adobe will ever sell another Mac copy of their programs. Apple is just re-inventing the way to edit video and I have the feeling that in the near future Avid and Adobe will be playing catch up and changing their old way to the new way.
Now as we don’t know all yet, it can still all go south obviously. But I agree with David. After I watched the videos I was MUCH more relaxed. At the moment it’s looking up rather than down. -
[Scott Davis]Yes FCP is $299. Previously the entire suite (FCP, DVDSP, Motion, Soundtrack, Compressor, Color) was $1000. 6 applications for $1000 versus 1 for $300. Simple division; the price has gone up!
Well, LOL, yes. But my feeling is that Color, Soundtrack and at least a bit of Motion is in there now. So maybe we are getting “them all” for $299 all combined into 1, like a mini-Smoke/Flint/etc. We will see.
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I don’t think Apple have re-invented how we edit but if the moving timeline thing with tracks hopping out of the way works and doesn’t have any nasty caveats it will be a marvelous step forwards and they look to have sorted grouping out in a clever and clean fashion. It does look more than just catch-up and having used Premiere for a couple of jobs, which it did ok, it still just edits in the same way everything else does, it’s benefit was using any daft format you can think of, which Avid quickly did as has FCP, weather we think it is sensible or not is another thing. I think it looks more Pro than it has in all previous versions and I don’t really care if it costs more to buy all the apps separately.
Anyone at NAB managed to drag any info about Color out of the Apple people who must be just standing around waiting to answer our burning questions? Is it going to be released new at the same time as FCPX? I presume it has been upgraded of course!!!! (that would not be a good thought!)
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Did you watch the video demo or were there?
By looking at it, I’m not sure we have Color as a stand alone application anymore. I could be wrong. But the color correction part of FCP-X looked a lot like it can do what Color does. I think they may have fused Color into FCP-X. Let’s see. -
I only watched the vids, but form what I could see of the colour correction it’s not in any way a replacement for Color, it matches both PPro and Avid’s in-App. CC’ing but that isn’t really anything more than FCP already offer, ok it is a bit it’s not a finishing program, unless they accept that Resolve will fully take that over in the same way that Nuke surpassed Shakes usefulness. Perhaps that is not a bad move, if it means that FCPX, XI, XII etc. will be supported more enthusiastically. I was told that BM have said they are hoping to release a roundtrip with FCP and Resolve so perhaps they knew something a while ago.
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sort of awesome – there are problems –
are you limited to a single project, it kind of looks like it – can you tab timelines?
with no track designations, how do OMFs work?
can we still slide and trim clips directly in the timeline, or do we have to enter that incredibly OTT AB editing mode?
with no clip viewer, how does multiclip work?
where do we set in and out points prior to stamping to the timeline? are we stuck using a yellow selection square? (i can’t believe they didn’t address that in the demo)
Clips automatically swapping around each other looks insane – my edit is not a jenga puzzle, that has to be turnoffable.
with only a single smart cursor, in other words with the tool palette, and the other states of the cursor (blade, slip, roll) gone, does this mean i have to jump into the AB trim mode all the time?
why is there an entire menu designated “share” and is anyone else freaked out by that?
why are they listing as key benefits auto tools to compensate for shoddy audio and bad camera shake? these are prosumer solutions, is this a prosumer product? What about all the facilities that invested vast amount of money in transitioning to FCP?
Can we look forward to red eye reduction being the next headline feature?blech.
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