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I recommend everyone watch the entire SuperMeet “sneak”
To all of my fellow FCP Cows who, like me, got their news about Final Cut X live via blogs or on Twitter, or who’ve only read the reports after the fact, I highly recommend you look around and find one of the available video records of complete Apple Sneek Peek from the Vegas SuperMeet. You owe it to yourself to actually listen to the presenters themselves, especially if you’re one of those whose feeling depressed or disgruntled.
Personally, I was initially very uncertain, even worried, after all the live blogs and Tweets I’d read. However, after listening to the entire presentation on video, my entire outlook has changed.
I think there were many things lost in translation in those live Twitter feeds and blogs, and in the subsequent articles I read as well. The presenters dropped loads of subtle hints, and made lots of subtle references to an entire range of things that are coming later in X, that were mentioned nowhere else. And trust me, I read almost every word, by nearly every person reporting from NAB.
What I heard when watching the complete video of the “sneak peek” made me feel much more secure, and I began to think that we are in the hands of some very bright guys who really do get it, and who know exactly what we do, and who know what they’re doing. I’m much more relaxed about the whole thing now, and I’m actually looking forward cutting my first project on X.
While I suspect the road ahead ironing out the kinks is gonna be bitch, I’ll be one of those doing it. And, I have a feeling that a year from now most of us are simply going to be doing our work and wondering what all the fuss was about.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
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Los Angeles
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Hey David!
Now that 24 hours have passed since the sneak peek, i have realised 2 things.
If i think of present i should be very happy with the new release. 64 bit application, No rendering, nice interface, better audio features & blah blah blah.
But when i think about future of this application, 2 things bother me.
1. Price has gone down to $ 299. So effectively the worth of each license has gone down & application has become more dispensible to apple’s plans.
2. This was touted to be a ground breaking application. It is not. Apple has simply caught up with Adobe & Avid. This is normally not their style. They are always 2 steps ahead of their competitors with every new invention.
Having said all this, there is still a lot to be found about FCP X. Lets just hope that apple has held back a big & nice surprise for all of us FCP editors!
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I think you’re going to be surprised in the coming months as you see and hear more. Mean while let me address the two things that you say bother you.
[Sohrab Sandhu] “1. Price has gone down to $ 299. So effectively the worth of each license has gone down & application has become more dispensible to apple’s plans.”
2 million users X $299 = $600 million cash via the app store – that’s not chump change, and it will far exceed whatever the development costs are.
[Sohrab Sandhu] “2. This was touted to be a ground breaking application. It is not. Apple has simply caught up with Adobe & Avid. This is normally not their style. They are always 2 steps ahead of their competitors with every new invention.”
They showed very little in their 45-minute sneak, we know almost nothing at this point. I don’t think your concern is valid at this point and you need to wait and see what X really has in store before you label it.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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I had the same experience when watching the complete presentation.
People are just scared for change and the look of imovie which is not.
The reality is that fcp7 was old code. They couldnt just fix that and except to be stable.
People also react like they cant use fcp7 anymore. If you have a macpro with fcp7
Dont worry!! It will run for much years to come!!
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Wow!
I took your advice David and I watched videos of the sneak peek. I was very, very impressed with what I saw. Audio tracks that move out of the way, tagging only a small range in a clip, dragable audio fade-in/out, trimming while being able to see the hidden parts of the clips… I have to say the presentation reminded me of Larry’s demo of edit 6.0 at the discreet edit NAB meeting from back in the day. (IIRC You were arrested at that meeting 😉
Seeing FCP X actually work in the live demo gives you a lot more information that any text description. Of course this was just a short demo of what I’m sure are the coolest new features and the real question is how it will work day to day. Some of the hype made me a little nervous like “You won’t ever have to worry about going out of sync ever again!” Really? But that type of reality distortion field is to be expected in any Apple presentation. There’s still some big questions too like integration with Motion, can you have multiple timelines, etc.
Overall though I’m just blown away. I’m really looking forward to upgrading and trying it out. I’m sure it will be a grind to get used to it at first and there will be bugs (it’s essentially version 1.0 after all) but I’m game.
Here’s the second part of the video I watched in case anyone else is interested. It’s the part with the live demo.
https://youtu.be/gAXL7L9fToQ?hd=1
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David,
I agree. Anyone who has devoted any time to editing footage professionally will see that APPLE has included things that will also advance the art of the editing craft itself. From what I am seeing this is a very considered rethink of editing craft.
My main complaint with most NLE’s has always been that they were quick to ad bells and whistles but not so quick to make the process of breaking down footage and assembling shots simpler.
Advancing this art and making it creative and flexible is new.
AVID is a good editor, FCP was a miniversion of AVID which merged into a suite of apps, I see premiere as a copy of the Apple Suite with some extra horsepower, but the new FCP will make the craft of editing simpler.
I can not wait to get my hands on it. I am all for simpler, easier, smoother. I don’t want keyframes getting in the way of my creative choices. The trimming they demonstrated alone is enough for me to buy the new app.
David
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+1 – I watched this yesterday and felt a lot more reassured. I still don’t understand why Apple didn’t release this properly themselves. I know it’s a ‘sneak peek’ and we have Larry Jordan saying there’s more to come, but this was a room with 1700 people in, and this ships in June – so only 2 months away. This better be near complete.
I get the feeling this is something I’m going to be running on a test system and laptop for a while before it goes anywhere near my broadcast kits – even assuming my third party hardware and plugins all work with it in June, which I doubt. Randy Ubilos stating that it’s beta and he hopes it doesn’t crash made me nervous – unless we are to believe they showed at earlier version that hid a lot of features they don’t want to announce now. But if that’s the case – why? You only get one chance to make a first impression…
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I agree David, the more I see the more I like it. I’ve always liked working in the timeline in a very organic way – my Fast 601/Silver had this functionality (though nowhere near as comprehensive) and I loved it – it ran rings around Avid and FCP at the time. This is like that on steroids. I for one am VERY exited about this, and I reckon we’ll all be wondering how the hell we put up with those old fashioned timelines in a year or so.
I’ll definitely be an ‘early adopter’!
Jason
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Hi
This looks amazing, it is a whole new looking app. and it looks to work in a whole new way, wonderful, I like learning new things if the reward is good. It looks to have taken some of the good bits from other apps. like SoundtrackPro and if that app has died because of that then personally I am happy, I used STP because audio in FCP was really rather naff and STP did manage “send & return” most of the time but this is great. Now, if they have made a roundtrip to Logic work well then things will get interesting.
The original write ups of the demo said that Color looked to have gone but that demo merely shows that Apple have made colour correction a different and much better beast from within FCP. I now have good hopes for Color and if they have unified the GUI to the same look then they have made the best choice, might even make Motion feel more usable.
I also reckon that the $299 is just for FCPX and the other Apps will be priced separately.
Hope that all the other Apps. have had the same upgrade. When’s the next demo? I want to know what they look like now!
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Your right I had the same feeling, and now I really want it and try it out!
For some reason I feel [from what I have seen] the new FCP X is leaning toward a Smoke like software.
Not just editing but finishing it one app.Also if there is going to be a next Motion then its going to be a kicker…
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Nice ! Good idea to actually listen to the presenters. Beats the hysterical screeching, gun-jumping and over-analysing that’s been going on here and across teh interweb
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