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i invite discusion: does apple know about these “issues”
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I think you’re right about the slomo features Bob. Sometimes I want to change a clips speed without jacking up my whole timeline. It’s weird the way it is now, IMHO, avid’s speed changes are much better (but that’s all!).
That said, I just finished my first 4 camera show yesterday. FCP continues to surprise me. Multipclip was awesome, figuring out the color corrector over 90 minutes time was challenging, but thanks to some helpful cow posts I got through it. It really is an intuitive program.
The things that get on my nerves are:
1. slomo is clunky and it tells me ‘no’ too much. I really miss “fit to fill”. Currently it feels like I’m blind when I try to speed adjust a clip.
2. Managing filters could be a little easier. Especially color correcting. This four camera show was on a live set, where I think the lighting guy had Terets – no camera color correct setting would stay consistant. For a 90 minute show it got REALLY annoying having to double click on each segment. There could be a faster way.
3. Let’s get a real hard limiter on the audio.
4. I’d like to use my scroll mousewheel to zoom in on my playhead. Maybe I can – gotta double check that one.
5. A previous poster in this threat mentioned how Pro level applications don’t want you to bounce around changing settings because that would be inefficient. Dude – what program are you working on? I’m editing on 8bit uncompressed, then I want to use some HDV footage, click on the HDV footage, and oh, I have to go change a setting somewhere if I want to see it. That is pretty inefficient as the program could easily change the view monitor output settings automatically when you switch from HDV, to SD, to DV, to etc. That’s WAY clunky. Easy setups just don’t feel very easy.
If you guys think I’m wrong, please explain to me how I’m wrong so that I can learn from the experience and start being right. I’m 98% thrilled with FCP, there are just some weird things that bug me.
Cheers!
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hey ben
thanx! i cant get it to happen now, maybe it was one of those things that get fixed when you throw away the prefs. or i am just getting too f***ing old!
bee eph
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1. Shift-F11 is Fit-to-Fill
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dude
i love this! 🙂
i realize you are an instructor so you want to make it clear but do you realize you wrote a paragraph of significant size to explain this! waht does that say? it sez, for what ever reason. there is an inefficiency.
why add a keystroke when you dont have to?
i dont like it. i think its wrong. quite a few people agree with me. and i would like to see apple dedicate the resources to fix it, as a matter of fact, they should stop development on all fronts and put there entire software development on this issue!!!
but thats just me 🙂
Bob Flood
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I wrote a lot because i tried to make it as clear as I could as you seemed to have difficulty understanding how the application works.
You want to save a keystroke in one place, but you’re going to add more keystrokes in other places.
Fortunately your wish is not going to be met.
All the best,
Tom
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” DVD
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Bob
No problem – and it’s great to have a newer pro user’s perspective, just as ppl coming across from Avid/M100 etc. bring their own system issues into FCP. You said your last system has been canned – hopefully FCP is here to stay, so stick at it, you might learn to like it…
Can I add to above that I HATE the miserable speed-change implementation in FCP, something that AVID does so much better. It annoys me, because interpolation is so EASY to deal with. We use EVS replay systems for broadcast that have had excellent smooth slow-motion for 6 years, and have become the OB industry standard because of it- and they do it in REALTIME. And they’re made by a bunch of crazy Belgians. In a forest. Sort it out, Apple.
Ben
Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
EVS and FCP specialists
Current Mac systems All Dual 2.7Ghz with Kona 2 and Digital Voodoo cards, 6Gb Ram, Sapphire, SCSI320 Medea and Huge Arrays.FCP projects include Sky TV coverage of the Ryder Cup and US Open Golf – Live OB specialists. Edit/slomo vehicle.
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[Tom Wolsky] “It always work the same way as far as I can tell. It always includes the frame that’s on the screen”
[Tom Wolsky] “The in point marks the clip at the playhead in front of frame to include the frame you’re looking at, and the out point always marks the edit after the frame you’re looking, to include the frame you’re looking at. It always behaves this way”
Sorry, but I believe this is just plain WRONG! If you are looking at a frame of vision and you mark THAT frame as the OUT point then THAT frame remains exactly as it is when you do the edit. It is not included as part of the edit. THAT frame is the OUT point. ipso facto the previous frame is the last frame of the new edit or new clip. This is the standard way insert editing works.
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the weird thing is that FCP is inconsistent. When you hit out, you include that frame you are looking at. So if you have a clip and nothing after it, and you arrow down to the end of the clip (which should show you black) and hit out, your outpoint includes the black frame if you were to lay that to tape or export, BUT if you select that clip and hit x, then the out point is marked as the last frame of clip (essentially one frame in from the end), and doesn’t include the black frame. I much prefer the x method as it is more accurate for edits and exports. I wish I could program the o key so that it would back up a frame and then mark out, but I don’t have the gumption to do so.
Jeremy
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Tom
I really have gone on too long about this, but you have provoked my ire
you must take me for an idiot.
of cousre i understand how it works. and i do not think it works well. it makes absolutely no sense to include the next frame after where you marked out. none nada I do not care if its becuz of the way the outpoint was designed by the programmers, or where the cti falls in the edit, or where heinz gets its beans. this has nothing to do with “its a computer versus a tape machine”. its inconvenient, confusing, and illogical. AND most important, its not the way you edit movies!
and i would hope that fixing this flaw would be done in such a way as too NOT cause more keystrokes DUH
I also find your reply of “fortunately your wish will never be met” to be insulting and elitst. based on that statement alone i can honeslty say i would never use your teaching materials, nor reccomend them to anyone i know.
BTW I tried your suggestion of shift o and it brought me to the end of the timline, not to the end of the clip
Bob Flood
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Jeremy
YES I am not crazy! it is inconsistent AND illogical AND ESPECIALLY its not how you edit movies!
When i get a minute, i am going to feedback to apple about this. you should too!
bee eph
Bob Flood
Greer & Associates, Inc.
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